G20 Series Price Affect on F3x?

ktrvn · 12-06-2018, 07:37 PM

I'll be looking into buying my first F3x 335i around the time that the new generation G20 comes out. Quite excited and hoping the F3x generation depreciates a bit so it'll be easier on the wallet

How much, if it all, do you guys expect the F3x M-sport models under 50k miles to depreciate once the new model releases? For CPO and non CPO

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 08:17 AM

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_tlink · 12-07-2018, 08:34 AM

Even though the G series is coming out, the market won't be effected a ton. You will most likely see a 10% or less drop since the F30 chassis is already at a cheap price. You will see a larger drop in LCI models then you will with the pre LCI ones.

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by _tlink

Even though the G series is coming out, the market won't be effected a ton. You will most likely see a 10% or less drop since the F30 chassis is already at a cheap price. You will see a larger drop in LCI models then you will with the pre LCI ones.

A larger drop in the LCI models would be nice. Hopefully they'll end up around the price of the current pre LCI models.

Just to make sure, the LCI models are 2015+ right?

_tlink · 12-07-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyletrann

A larger drop in the LCI models would be nice. Hopefully they'll end up around the price of the current pre LCI models.

Just to make sure, the LCI models are 2015+ right?

Correct

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _tlink

Correct

Forgive my noob questions, but is it any 2015+ model or is there a certain month i should pay attention too if looking for the LCI model

ReRe · 12-07-2018, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyletrann

Forgive my noob questions, but is it any 2015+ model or is there a certain month i should pay attention too if looking for the LCI model

It's any 2016 MY and newer. 15' model years are pre-LCI.

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ReRe

It's any 2016 MY and newer. 15' model years are pre-LCI.

Thank you

Is there any real plus of getting LCI > pre LCI other then headlight/taillight difference? Factor out the EWG and PWG bc i plan on getting a 2014+ atleast which are EWG

Edit: Are the LCI models the 340i's? Or are there LCI 335i's?

BMW11 · 12-07-2018, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by _tlink

Even though the G series is coming out, the market won't be effected a ton. You will most likely see a 10% or less drop since the F30 chassis is already at a cheap price. You will see a larger drop in LCI models then you will with the pre LCI ones.

why would there be a larger drop on LCI models as compared to the pre-LCI? Are the Pre-LCI worth more the the LCI? Shouldn't it be there other way around? LCI is worth more the pre-lci. generally

ReRe · 12-07-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyletrann

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Originally Posted by ReRe

It's any 2016 MY and newer. 15' model years are pre-LCI.

Thank you

Is there any real plus of getting LCI > pre LCI other then headlight/taillight difference? Factor out the EWG and PWG bc i plan on getting a 2014+ atleast which are EWG

Edit: Are the LCI models the 340i's? Or are there LCI 335i's?

You answered it in the edit, besides the cosmetic differences, the biggest advantage of LCI is the engine (340i) and some tuning and suspension adjustments

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ReRe

You answered it in the edit, besides the cosmetic differences, the biggest advantage of LCI is the engine (340i) and some tuning and suspension adjustments

What would the suspension adjustments be? I found a thread containing info about the LCI F30 but it mainly talked about the cosmetics.

ktrvn · 12-07-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW11

why would there be a larger drop on LCI models as compared to the pre-LCI? Are the Pre-LCI worth more the the LCI? Shouldn't it be there other way around? LCI is worth more the pre-lci. generally

LCI's are generally worth more than the pre LCI. The way I understood his message is since the LCI is the model right under the G20 it would be more affected than the older pre LCI. IF there are price cuts though I'm sure it would affect pre-LCI AND LCI, but probably decrease the LCI prices more since the pre LCI are already so low.

ReRe · 12-07-2018, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyletrann

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Originally Posted by ReRe

You answered it in the edit, besides the cosmetic differences, the biggest advantage of LCI is the engine (340i) and some tuning and suspension adjustments

What would the suspension adjustments be? I found a thread containing info about the LCI F30 but it mainly talked about the cosmetics.

Check this out
https://www.bmwblog.com/2015/05/08/d...-3-series-lci/

LuisBoston · 12-07-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyletrann

LCI's are generally worth more than the pre LCI. The way I understood his message is since the LCI is the model right under the G20 it would be more affected than the older pre LCI. IF there are price cuts though I'm sure it would affect pre-LCI AND LCI, but probably decrease the LCI prices more since the pre LCI are already so low.

For any car (generally) newer cars depreciate faster than older cars. A 1 year old F30 will depreciate more in one year than a 4 year old F30. Same as a Camry.

Depreciation rates tends to flatten out (or reverse if you’re lucky) the older a car gets.

_tlink · 12-10-2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW11

why would there be a larger drop on LCI models as compared to the pre-LCI? Are the Pre-LCI worth more the the LCI? Shouldn't it be there other way around? LCI is worth more the pre-lci. generally

Think about it like this:

Pre LCI are say around the 18K-30k and over almost 2+ years ago. Their largest depreciation hit for most models already since most have passed the standard 3 yr range.

LCI are at a maximum 2 yrs old. They hold values anywhere from Base Price - say 30k (since that was the pre LCI ceiling). Their value will diminish heavily since there is a whole new chassis coming out rather than a simple face lift and slightly new engine.

TDL: Pre LCI cars will not change much in price since their depreciation hit where LCI will depreciate harder from standard depreciation on top of also being an old chassis.

cfm56d7b · 12-10-2018, 09:22 AM

When buying a used car, depreciation as a factor of great price is actually not the important factor. More important factors are:

- Must have equipment: B58 engine as an example. LCI or not LCI ...
- Must have optional equipment
- Interior and exterior colors
- Vehicle's accident history and mechanical condition
- Location and the cost of flying there and driving it back. Many forum members searched for the right vehicle and drove it back a few hundred miles

One thing is certain: after 3 years, depreciation curve stabilizes regardless of any new model on the horizon.

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