[NEWTRON]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Hey, folks! How correctly to flash stock map and have license ready for transfer?

I read that it should be stock map and relocked dme.
I tried to download stock map and turn off cold start (cat heating) and catalytic monitors so catless downpipe would not give error, but when I flashed that configured stock map it looked as dme was not relocked. When I flashed stock map via button flash and relock, based on sound, neither cold start not monitors turned off. So it might be an error later.

So, I want to flash stock with settings for catless downpipe and have this license ready for selling.

Thank you.

you can't. as soon as you change the settings for the downpipe its not the stock tune anymore. The tune has to be 100% unchanged to lock the DME.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by NEWTRON

you can't. as soon as you change the settings for the downpipe its not the stock tune anymore. The tune has to be 100% unchanged to lock the DME.

this is correct

[Kolianovskyi]

Originally Posted by NEWTRON

you can't. as soon as you change the settings for the downpipe its not the stock tune anymore. The tune has to be 100% unchanged to lock the DME.

Ok, stock map + settings for downpipe, would it be possible to transfer a license then?

[NEWTRON]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Ok, stock map + settings for downpipe, would it be possible to transfer a license then?

No, Your car needs to have the DME relocked in order to transfer the license.

[Kolianovskyi]

Originally Posted by NEWTRON

No, Your car needs to have the DME relocked in order to transfer the license.

Thank you. So how and what can I do in order to fight potential CEL because of catless downpipe and being able to sell license?

[LA1Z24]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Thank you. So how and what can I do in order to fight potential CEL because of catless downpipe and being able to sell license?

Put the cat back in it.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Thank you. So how and what can I do in order to fight potential CEL because of catless downpipe and being able to sell license?

you don't lol

[Possessed]

Another question about knocks...

I have an EWG with Wagner catted downpipe, Evo 2 comp cooler and upgraded chargepipe. I'm in Scandinavia and I'm fueling up with Shell Vpower 98 RON (also did when the car was stock). E85 is not available here anymore.

Initially I flashed the BM3 stage 2 93 OTS map. Some logs looked great, some looked not that great with timing pulled and knocks detected.

Some examples:

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6085...0b43386e5ab211 (good)
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60ad...0b4341fb952b8a (less good)

I switched to the stage 2 91 map, datalogged a few runs and PTF adviced me to stick to the 91 map. That's fine, but even on the 91 map with 93 (98 RON) fuel I'm getting knocks:
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60c7...729b675f868e98

This one has two knock events on full boost which worries me.
The plugs are recently changed OEM's with stock gap.

Could the Shell fuel be my issue even on the 91 map? Or something else?

I've read through thejeremyman9's "how to" thread several times (thanks dude!), and I can't find other issues in my logs. IAT looks fine. Only thing I've noticed is the WGDC in higher RPM's, but I've read that's common for the 7.1 maps.

(Sidenote - from what I've seen the knocks are mostly ocurring when starting from low RPM in 4. gear (logging situations). I'm pretty sure I can feel slight hesitations when timing is being pulled. In more normal WOT situations it pulls pretty strong and feels consistent, and I have not seen knocks on full boost.)

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Possessed

Another question about knocks...

I have an EWG with Wagner catted downpipe, Evo 2 comp cooler and upgraded chargepipe. I'm in Scandinavia and I'm fueling up with Shell Vpower 98 RON (also did when the car was stock). E85 is not available here anymore.

Initially I flashed the BM3 stage 2 93 OTS map. Some logs looked great, some looked not that great with timing pulled and knocks detected.

Some examples:

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6085...0b43386e5ab211 (good)
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60ad...0b4341fb952b8a (less good)

I switched to the stage 2 91 map, datalogged a few runs and PTF adviced me to stick to the 91 map. That's fine, but even on the 91 map with 93 (98 RON) fuel I'm getting knocks:
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60c7...729b675f868e98

This one has two knock events on full boost which worries me.
The plugs are recently changed OEM's with stock gap.

Could the Shell fuel be my issue even on the 91 map? Or something else?

I've read through thejeremyman9's "how to" thread several times (thanks dude!), and I can't find other issues in my logs. IAT looks fine. Only thing I've noticed is the WGDC in higher RPM's, but I've read that's common for the 7.1 maps.

(Sidenote - from what I've seen the knocks are mostly ocurring when starting from low RPM in 4. gear (logging situations). I'm pretty sure I can feel slight hesitations when timing is being pulled. In more normal WOT situations it pulls pretty strong and feels consistent, and I have not seen knocks on full boost.)

try the acn map.. where are you located?

[Possessed]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

try the acn map.. where are you located?

I'm in Norway. I'll try the ACN map, just a bit surprised if the "premium" fuel here is that bad...

[435gc]

Originally Posted by Possessed

I'm in Norway. I'll try the ACN map, just a bit surprised if the "premium" fuel here is that bad...

May be worth looking at buying 100% ethanol from a chemical store and mix it in your pump gas. Probably cheaper than octane booster.

[Possessed]

Originally Posted by 435gc

May be worth looking at buying 100% ethanol from a chemical store and mix it in your pump gas. Probably cheaper than octane booster.

That’s an option if the issue is octane related. It’s also possible to buy barrels of E85 for race fuel, I just need to find somewhere to store it as I live in an apartment block with shared parking space.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by Possessed

Another question about knocks...

I have an EWG with Wagner catted downpipe, Evo 2 comp cooler and upgraded chargepipe. I'm in Scandinavia and I'm fueling up with Shell Vpower 98 RON (also did when the car was stock). E85 is not available here anymore.

Initially I flashed the BM3 stage 2 93 OTS map. Some logs looked great, some looked not that great with timing pulled and knocks detected.

Some examples:

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6085...0b43386e5ab211 (good)
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60ad...0b4341fb952b8a (less good)

I switched to the stage 2 91 map, datalogged a few runs and PTF adviced me to stick to the 91 map. That's fine, but even on the 91 map with 93 (98 RON) fuel I'm getting knocks:
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=60c7...729b675f868e98

This one has two knock events on full boost which worries me.
The plugs are recently changed OEM's with stock gap.

Could the Shell fuel be my issue even on the 91 map? Or something else?

I've read through thejeremyman9's "how to" thread several times (thanks dude!), and I can't find other issues in my logs. IAT looks fine. Only thing I've noticed is the WGDC in higher RPM's, but I've read that's common for the 7.1 maps.

(Sidenote - from what I've seen the knocks are mostly ocurring when starting from low RPM in 4. gear (logging situations). I'm pretty sure I can feel slight hesitations when timing is being pulled. In more normal WOT situations it pulls pretty strong and feels consistent, and I have not seen knocks on full boost.)

You need a larger dataset to really evaluate a potential knock issue. You have a few things you can try:

1. Try ACN map. Drive 50+ miles for adaptations (and/or reset octane one in particular), then get three 4th gear logs on the same tank of gas.

2. Try getting three 4th gear datalogs on a new tank of gas still on the 91 map

3. Try a "real" octane booster and see if the knocks go away and/or timing improves.

4. On either 91 or ACN map if you are still getting knocks (without octane booster) in 4th gear pulls, try a few 1-4 gear pulls (from standard start to top of 4th) and see if you knock. You dont need to use launch control or anything. just floor it from a stop.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Possessed

I'm in Norway. I'll try the ACN map, just a bit surprised if the "premium" fuel here is that bad...

it might be. that's why that map exists for the US. some places have really terrible fuel

[Possessed]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

You need a larger dataset to really evaluate a potential knock issue. You have a few things you can try:

1. Try ACN map. Drive 50+ miles for adaptations (and/or reset octane one in particular), then get three 4th gear logs on the same tank of gas.

2. Try getting three 4th gear datalogs on a new tank of gas still on the 91 map

3. Try a "real" octane booster and see if the knocks go away and/or timing improves.

4. On either 91 or ACN map if you are still getting knocks (without octane booster) in 4th gear pulls, try a few 1-4 gear pulls (from standard start to top of 4th) and see if you knock. You dont need to use launch control or anything. just floor it from a stop.

Thanks, I will try this approach.

[JP.BSB]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

You need a larger dataset to really evaluate a potential knock issue. You have a few things you can try:

1. Try ACN map. Drive 50+ miles for adaptations (and/or reset octane one in particular), then get three 4th gear logs on the same tank of gas.

thejeremyman9 First of all congratulations for the amazing guide on how to interpret datalogs.

How to reset only the Octane Adaptations? I've been using the bm3 and the option I have is "Reset Adaptations".
If I reset Octane Adaptations, for how long I need to drive before logging?

[Possessed]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

You need a larger dataset to really evaluate a potential knock issue. You have a few things you can try:

1. Try ACN map. Drive 50+ miles for adaptations (and/or reset octane one in particular), then get three 4th gear logs on the same tank of gas.

2. Try getting three 4th gear datalogs on a new tank of gas still on the 91 map

3. Try a "real" octane booster and see if the knocks go away and/or timing improves.

4. On either 91 or ACN map if you are still getting knocks (without octane booster) in 4th gear pulls, try a few 1-4 gear pulls (from standard start to top of 4th) and see if you knock. You dont need to use launch control or anything. just floor it from a stop.

Flashed the ACN map but coding failed to apply twice. Flashed back to stock and will reach out to PTF support.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by JP.BSB

thejeremyman9 First of all congratulations for the amazing guide on how to interpret datalogs.

How to reset only the Octane Adaptations? I've been using the bm3 and the option I have is "Reset Adaptations".
If I reset Octane Adaptations, for how long I need to drive before logging?

I use MHD so i am not exactly sure there is in within the BM3 software, but there should be a sub menu for adaptations. There are many adaptations... octane, throttle, etc. I forget the whole list but you should be able to reset them individually? Unless BM3 makes you reset all of them at once, which would be a little strange but not necessarily an issue. I would drive 50 miles under varying conditions to be sure (some city, highway, then a few WOT pulls before doing the actual logging).

[Kolianovskyi]

Folks! Is it possible to change a VIN under same account/email address? I mean, if I sell a license via transfer, there would be a new email address for another guy, maps would not be transferred.

But, if I can change vin in my account I could give that account with reseted password to another guy and he might use maps as well.

If I sell a license via transfer, what will happen with my account? If I want to buy another license for another engine, will I lose my map pack?

[GAB0]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Folks! Is it possible to change a VIN under same account/email address? I mean, if I sell a license via transfer, there would be a new email address for another guy, maps would not be transferred.

But, if I can change vin in my account I could give that account with reseted password to another guy and he might use maps as well.

If I sell a license via transfer, what will happen with my account? If I want to buy another license for another engine, will I lose my map pack?

Those are all great questions. Have you reached out to PTF yet?

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Kolianovskyi

Folks! Is it possible to change a VIN under same account/email address? I mean, if I sell a license via transfer, there would be a new email address for another guy, maps would not be transferred.

But, if I can change vin in my account I could give that account with reseted password to another guy and he might use maps as well.

If I sell a license via transfer, what will happen with my account? If I want to buy another license for another engine, will I lose my map pack?

you can't just change the vin. its done as a transfer and the map pack will be lost.

[Kolianovskyi]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

you can't just change the vin. its done as a transfer and the map pack will be lost.

I learnt recently that a license could be transferred to any engine, so I am going to keep mine for my new N63T))).