[Shazsta]

Originally Posted by steelerfan

6-8 long months in the making (from the time i started buying parts), I'm happy to report i finally have a rear view camera!!!!!!!!

So after i swapped the connections for the HU_CIC, added front PDC & coded FEM_BODY, REM, ICM & HU_CIC... it's alive!!!!!

How come you had to swap these connections? I dont remember doing this but then again I did the swap and have been having intermittent issues with pic sensors not being able to be found.

[Kfc2]

Thanks! Will give it a try soon

[Kfc2]

I tried to code the TRSVC but I didn't see the CAFD under that. Can someone please let me know why the CAFD is missing?

Thanks

[Sii770i7]

Originally Posted by Kfc2

I tried to code the TRSVC but I didn't see the CAFD under that. Can someone please let me know why the CAFD is missing?

Thanks

You need to inject CAFD into TRSVC. Refer to page 6 which Shawn indicated the steps to do it.

[Kfc2]

Injected the CAFD into the TRSVC and coded the TRSVC. Still getting the error message...

[Sii770i7]

Originally Posted by Kfc2

Injected the CAFD into the TRSVC and coded the TRSVC. Still getting the error message...

Are you using Pdzdata_lite or Pdzdata_full? One more thing, I also check the camera cable is properly fixed onto the camera module.

[Kfc2]

I have the Pdzdata Full. The camera cable has been checked at both ends twice. I am getting the Rheingold and see if I can clear up this error message.

[Sii770i7]

Originally Posted by Kfc2

I have the Pdzdata Full. The camera cable has been checked at both ends twice. I am getting the Rheingold and see if I can clear up this error message.

Ok, good luck to you!

[Kfc2]

Hi Sii770i7,
One more question for you.
Did you code other ECUs after installing the PDZdata full version? Or the TRSVC is the only one that you coded? Please let me know!

Thanks

[Sii770i7]

Originally Posted by Kfc2

Hi Sii770i7,
One more question for you.
Did you code other ECUs after installing the PDZdata full version? Or the TRSVC is the only one that you coded? Please let me know!

Thanks

I VO coded, CIC_HU, FEM BODY, REM, ICM & lastly TRSVC. Hope these infos help.

[Cornel_t]

Originally Posted by roxxor

After this, you will be left with the wires that are run to the front of the car. You will need to separate about 2 feet of the CAN wires(Green and Orange/Green) from the 3 wires(red, white, and Shield) that run to the CIC, the rest you can leave them bundled together. The 3 CIC wires go to the back of the headunit to the large MOST connector. The Pin assignments from ISTA for cars with CIC are: Red - Pin #18, Shield - Pin #27, and White - Pin #28. I apologize for not getting pictures of this part, it was getting late and I forgot to snap a pic. The connector is labeled well though so you should have no problems identifying which slots to use.

As you work on the MOST connector, you will notice that there are 2 wires that are the same color as the CAN wires, HOWEVER, despite being the same color, at this location they serve a different function and cannot be tapped/used as the signal is not correct. But, since with this cable we are not going to the driver's side underdash, we need a new location to connect the two CAN wires. Thankfully, the wires we need are conveniently located nearby at the iDrive controller. You can remove the trim piece with the controller, and voila, there are your Green and Orange/Green wires. Run the 2 wires from the harness to this area, and then use the OEM wire taps(which are quite secure by the way) to connect them.

If anyone is wanting to attempt this or has any questions, I am always willing to help out!

Hi guys,

I need you help, perhaps somebody have experience for my question. I retrofitted on a 2014 F31 rear view camera, using all parts from a wrecked car. Everything was fine till to connect those Green and Orange/Green to CAN wires. I removed the trim of iDrive but the colour are different (see below picture).
What would be the correct wires/colour to connect in order to make the link with CAN bus?



Thanks in advance

[roxxor]

Originally Posted by Cornel_t

Hi guys,

I need you help, perhaps somebody have experience for my question. I retrofitted on a 2014 F31 rear view camera, using all parts from a wrecked car. Everything was fine till to connect those Green and Orange/Green to CAN wires. I removed the trim of iDrive but the colour are different (see below picture).
What would be the correct wires/colour to connect in order to make the link with CAN bus?



Thanks in advance

It seems like this was different for different models, namely the old style non-touch controller vs. the touch-sensitive NBT controller. You should be able to find the wires in one of the connectors at the FEM, it was mentioned in one of the earlier posts

[Cornel_t]

Hi Roxxor,

I identified the FEM wire box, unplugged A173 8B connector and surprise ... there is nothing where it supposed to be PIN51 respectively PIN52, empty tiny holes
Looking around to all connectors I found a small (about 10 pins) just one below the 8B, which has the coloured wires as the wires coming from the camera module - green & orange/green. Perhaps this is a coincidence but not knowing what is about I would not mess it up connecting randomly.

So still looking for the wires

[roxxor]

Those may be the ones. Per Rheingold, the Wires from the TRSVC to the FEM are K-Can, not K-Can2. The only listings in the FEM for K-Can wires are A173*8B Pin 51 and 52, as well as A173*3B(54-Pin), Pins 33 and 34. If those #'s match, then I would give it a shot.

Alternatively, these connections are supposedly available at the seat module under the driver's seat. Rheingold shows these color wires on the wiring diagram for the seat module, and connector A245*3B(8-pin) pins 5 and 6 are shown as K-Can wires.

[steelerfan]

Originally Posted by Cornel_t

Hi Roxxor,

I identified the FEM wire box, unplugged A173 8B connector and surprise ... there is nothing where it supposed to be PIN51 respectively PIN52, empty tiny holes
Looking around to all connectors I found a small (about 10 pins) just one below the 8B, which has the coloured wires as the wires coming from the camera module - green & orange/green. Perhaps this is a coincidence but not knowing what is about I would not mess it up connecting randomly.

So still looking for the wires

Just to confirm, this is the image your referencing when trying to locate the A173*B connector???

[Cornel_t]

Hi guys,

I took couple of pictures to better explain my situation
1. This is the FEM A173*8B connector

2. After I removed out 8B case this is how it looks


As you can see, on my F31 (production date August 2014), what you describe in terms of PINs of A173*8B is slightly different.

In the last days I researched on the Internet and found out that CAN-H and CAN-L cables have different colors (yellow/red, yellow/brown), respectively different PINs position (50 & 49). This information could be true considering the pictures from my car (check above picture and text).
More, it seems, as can be seen in below pictures, there is as well another connector into A173 with wires yellow/red & yellow/brown.
3.
4.

These are the links with info regarding new correspondence of CAN bus wires:
http://synergytradeshop.com/content/...20EN%20001.pdf

http://www.mseurope.be/index.php?opt...df&Itemid=1021

Before getting any action, could any of you double check/confirm what I shared with you?

Thanks & enjoy the weekend

[roxxor]

Originally Posted by Cornel_t

Hi guys,

I took couple of pictures to better explain my situation
1. This is the FEM A173*8B connector

2. After I removed out 8B case this is how it looks


As you can see, on my F31 (production date August 2014), what you describe in terms of PINs of A173*8B is slightly different.

In the last days I researched on the Internet and found out that CAN-H and CAN-L cables have different colors (yellow/red, yellow/brown), respectively different PINs position (50 & 49). This information could be true considering the pictures from my car (check above picture and text).
More, it seems, as can be seen in below pictures, there is as well another connector into A173 with wires yellow/red & yellow/brown.
3.
4.

These are the links with info regarding new correspondence of CAN bus wires:
http://synergytradeshop.com/content/...20EN%20001.pdf

http://www.mseurope.be/index.php?opt...df&Itemid=1021

Before getting any action, could any of you double check/confirm what I shared with you?

Thanks & enjoy the weekend

No, those will most likely not work. As I mentioned, there are two types of Can wires, K-Can and K-Can2. Pins 49/50 are K-Can2, which are not on the same line as the TRSVC. You mentioned seeing the Orange/Green and Green wires at another plug in the FEM, if those are at Pins 33/34 in their connector, then that is most likely A173*3B, and those should be the correct wires to try.

[Cornel_t]

Originally Posted by roxxor

No, those will most likely not work. As I mentioned, there are two types of Can wires, K-Can and K-Can2. Pins 49/50 are K-Can2, which are not on the same line as the TRSVC. You mentioned seeing the Orange/Green and Green wires at another plug in the FEM, if those are at Pins 33/34 in their connector, then that is most likely A173*3B, and those should be the correct wires to try.

I checked every each connector and the only place where I found orange/green & green wires is on the smallest connector on FEM.




The donor car had CAN connections below driver's seat, I checked as well on my car on that particular connector and unfortunately there is no correspondence with those wires (did not take picture by that time to share with you).
I'm totally confused and don't know where to look for those wires

[roxxor]

Hmmm, the seat wires may be related to certain options. But the ones in Connector A173*3B(the ones you show in your pictures) are K-Can wires and should work

[Cornel_t]

Are you sure @roxxor ?
I mean the connector you are talking from my picture, I believe is not A173*3B because it is having only 12 PINs !!! (orange/green & green at 6&7 PINs) and from what you are saying it suppose to have 54 pins with CAN orange/green & green wires at PINs 33/34.
Btw how get I get a the Rheingold app?

[roxxor]

You are correct, that is actually A173*10B. I did not realize you had an F31 until I re-read above.

So in the FEM pin list for a 2014 F31, the connectors for pins 33/34 at connector A173*7B are the K-Can wires. This is the connector directly to the right of A173*8B. Can you look at those and see what color they aren't?

As for Rheingold, it can be found online. Takes a bit of searching, but it's out there.

[Cornel_t]

This is A173*7B connector:
- PIN 33 wire colors black/light green stripe
- PIN 34 wire colors yellow/red stripe
So, at least there are some wires but with different colors, could it be to match what am I looking for?