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I like my 340i Msport AT.
The B58 engine is fantastic, powerful, and it enjoys being high in the rev band. My cold start shaky idle sucks, and BMW still hasn't given a fix, and my dealer tech and the service dept manager keep trying to convince me that a shaking engine at cold start is NORMAL and BMW designed it that way. Yeah, ok. My 340i has the adaptive dampers. The overall suspension needs to be better tuned for flatter handling, less wallow and less nervous rear end on mid corner bumps at speed. Too much suspension tweaking for the non sport sedan crowd influencing how BMW tunes the sport and Msport variants. That's a big oversight and they need to correct that. I don't need driver "modes" to attempt and get me to believe that "sport+" is somehow a greater level of sport compared to the "sport" mode. Tune the car to be the best SPORT sedan it can be and I'll take that as the singular default mode. We already had a selectable control for traction and stability controls, and we already had a selectable "sport" setting for the auto trans even before the F30 and it's driver "modes". Redundant and duplicate controls are pointless. "Eco pro" is pointless in a 3.0 turbo Msport. There was nothing wrong with the adaptive xenon headlights, and I notice no improvement in night time lighting with the LED headlights. And actually, the LED headlights seem a bit dimmer for some reason and light up less of the road. That could be a needed adjustment, I'm not sure. Including the LED headlights has removed the adaptive/swivel of the former adaptive xenon headlights. BMW wants me to pay more so the new headlights swivel when that function was included before. No, I don't think so. Adaptive xenon should have been the standard item and adaptive LED headlights should have been optional. The HK audio system needs updating badly. LOGIC 7 is pointless and worthless. Engaging it ruins stereo recordings, and I have no need for artificial "surround sound" in my car. The overall sound quality for an $850 upgrade is not there at all. Sure, the volume can get loud, but the acual audio quality is not there. Competing manufacturers have better audio systems in the same class and price range. REDUCE, REDUCE the freaking road/tire noise! OMG, why does my 2016 BMW 340i sound like I'm driving an early 1990's Chevy sedan over rough pavement? Does proper sound deadening and proper door seals really cost that much and cut greatly into BMW profits? FIX the freaking driver side windshield wiper! I have the exact same spot that the wiper glides over or smears as I did in my 2013 335i. It's the exact SAME spot. I had the dealer replace that wiper on the 335i 3 times and it still glided over the same spot. And now, the same with my 340i, and the wipers have been replaced, no fix. So, some stupid little things, and some big oversights. Overall, the 340i is a noticeable improvement over the pre LCI 335i especially in regards to the steering, suspension, handling, and brakes. The added performance of the B58 is very welcomed, though the N55 was/is still a great engine too. I get excellent MPG from my 340I as well. I'm getting nearly 2mpg better than what I got with the 335i. Nice. I have great expectations for the next chassis 3 series. BMW really REALLY needs to get it right, especially the "Sport" and/or "Msport" variants correct. If the next 3 series is a rehash of the F30 with new sheet metal and updated interior, then I'm moving on and away. Hopefully the 2 series interior will be greatly improved from it's current low rent design and materials as it will be my only other BMW choice. If neither of those cars works out, then I'm getting an Audi S3. In my experience the S3 is already has a nicer more modern interior, and is good bit more fun to drive than my 340i. It's also more fun to drive than the A4 and S4. BMW has yet to have an answer for the S3. The M240i is not it. PLEASE, bring back the "3 series SPORT sedan". You've done it before, you can do it again. |
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I must say, this is one of more informative and objective threads I've read in a while. Nobody's arguing, nobody's feeling are hurt (yet) just a bunch of owners objectively assessing their cars. Calling BMW out to make them better, and praising where praise is due instead of blindly just being fanboys... way to go, keep it up.
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Good thread - let a friend test drive my car today, and got me thinking about the things I love/like/dislike/hate
So I have: 340i xDrive 6MT w/Msport/Trk/Tech/Cold/Drvrs/Assist - EBII w Saddle Brown For me after ~7 mos of ownership: Pros: Engine - deserves its own Pro's category: Smoothest engine I've ever driven - feels better in every way from the N54/55 Power - esp in cold weather is amazing - feels so much more than 330hp Torque - even more surprising than power - never get tired of 3rd gear pulls Rev Matching is awesome - I can do a little heel/toe and still try to be better, but nobody's as good as the car does it - and if you're a DIY heel/toer, go ahead - it won't get in your way. Handling - Incredible grip, Don't get the steering complaints - feels great to me Feels way more capable as a machine than I am as a driver Get the MPSS tires - worth the price of the Trk Pkg all by themselves Brakes - on the Trk Pkg are unbelievably good. Shocking really. Interior - LOVE LOVE LOVE the HUD - get the tech package just for this Heated steering wheel - never thought about before it but can't live without it now Exterior - love the F30-Msport shape and appearance and the EBII color is growing on me - originally wanted a darker blue Cons - Price - mine was $60k msrp - even after bargaining it down quite a bit - that's still close enough to used-F80 territory that I constantly have 'what-if' thoughts Servicing - 10k mile oil changes are stupid and are basically trading off engine life against service plan. They should have an option to include 4 more oil changes - really - $150x4 oil changes wouldn't drive that many customers away and would be so much more respectable Artificial engine noise - this is an abomination that should be against the law - disagree on principle, and wish I could disable with out coding my car. Engine/Trans - Kind of notchy/jerky in 1st/2nd when cold. Annoying. Interior - Biggest problem is the crappy bluetooth integration with Iphone 6s. Seriously - I have rented $25k camry's that work better. Can't load playlists, doesn't work well with podcasts, etc. Plugging into USB is necessary to get smooth engagement. Wont start in sport mode. always comfort mode. Lame Rear legroom is a little tight for my 14-yr old kid and her friend who are 5'6"ish Performance - with a 6MT, and switching between Sport and Sport+ and Comfort, the clutch engagement changes relative to throttle position, which makes me drive like a moron occasionally when I forget which mode I'm in and I let out the clutch too fast/slow relative to the gas pedal. Overall - I'm sure I'm forgetting some things above, but overall it's an incredible machine. When I think about the decision to buy this over an S4 or an ATS-V or anything like that, it's totally no regrets. About the only thing I think about is 'Could I have lived with the RWD and the extra cost of the F80? Would it have been as good as a daily driver?' Beyond that, absolutely no regrets.
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I'm not sure if this is still the case, but the firmware (I-Step) level that my car was shipped with has the AS disabled. There was another thread were other people noticed it no longer working also. I noticed this by trying to code different settings into the ASD module and they had no effect. My car still does not have it as of today. The exhaust physically gets louder in Sport/Sport+ modes but there is no artificial sound in the cabin.
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After having my car for about 7 months now, I'm still in love with it. I've done a few mods now and they definitely changed the experience in a good way. The catless downpipe is sweet and gave it a great overhaul to the "already good" exhaust sound.
By far though, the biggest upgrade was swapping out the stock runflat tires for non-runflats. Such a quieter cabin and smoother ride! Car feels much more like a go-kart with sharper turn in. I suggest any of you that are leasing do that so you don't have to purchase runflats upon lease turn-in. I put on Continental ExtremeContact DW's and hope they last until I turn the car in. As to not thread-jack, check out my thread (link in signature) if you're interested to hear/see more about the catless downpipe. |
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Not surprised at all that the engine is resoundingly well received, but one thing that surprises me are the negative complaints on the HK system. I don't have my 340 yet but is the HK really that bad? I mean I'm coming from at STI so I'm expecting a massive jump in interior quality all around. I'm a sucker for quality sound systems too...
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16 340i. Only negative to me is the engine tapping noise (many say from injectors). Once noticed its hard to ignore it. Strangely, as a modular design, B48 doesn't have this problem.
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I think it sounds fine too... Even though Logic 7 can cause to sound issues, but even with it on, it sounds great. I normally feed mine apple music quality (256 AAC), but I have quite a bit of a FLAC collection that I feed into it and it sounds great with CD/HD quality music.
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Basically a lot of music is mastered like shit. A lot of them are mastered at higher volume levels with dynamic range compression. Some with over blown bass etc.. A higher resolution audio system will reveal the weakness in the source material. If you pick a song that has less bass in the mastering and adjust your bass levels higher. The next song you play that has higher bass levels in the recording will make the bass overblown. Pick a reference song and set your levels and accept the fact that not all songs are recorded the same and just live with it. This is the bane of the Audiophile. |
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Came from a F30 335 to the 340 and I must say there's some improvements and some small things needing to be fixed:
PROS: 1) Engine is a lot more responsive 2) stock exhaust sounds really nice, but with muffler delete and resonator delete, it makes it pop and burble non stop 3) headlights are hypnotizing 4) Adaptive suspension is a must for me from now on. It makes such a huge difference! I don't feel like I'm going to bottom out or feel every bump on the road like I did on the 335. 5) minimal interior changes is a nice touch touch up. I got the alcantra this time so I fell in love instantly with the flow of everything 6) Harmon Kardon being standard on 16's is a big upgrade.. but mine already popped within 2 months ? 7) Save the best for last, It feels like a different monster with the B58 and the transmission has been upgraded and it makes for such a smooth flow of power. When I had the muffler delete in the other car I would always put it in manual mode to shift before drone kicks in, but with this one I can keep it in Drive and it changes gears at the right time. The drone is less on this one as well because the exhaust setup is different as well. CONS: 1) When engine is warmed up and your ready to go, it bogs sometimes and you feel like your car is about to stop for a millisecond 2) interior noises!!!! WTF! This is the one thing I hated about the 335 and I continue to hate it in the 340. Why do they have to make interior parts with bad quality?! When my friends come in they always say that your car sounds like it's falling apart or something. Neutral: Why do they make you get fog lights now? I didn't want one and I have one, not complaining but I never use it.
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Thanks all for the feedback on the sound system--what a relief. Saw so many negative comments and was worried. I'm not expecting a state-of-the art system, but for a $65K car I'd expect something above average...or at least something better than a damn Subaru! Great thread, BTW--one of the most informative I've read on here. |
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