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      10-18-2017, 03:40 PM   #89
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I see no pwg turbo options for 435i in any of bmw parts catalogues. That's it, if bmw made preproduction models with pwg turbos - would be interesting to enter its vin and see what turbo and ECU (pwg is mevd17.2.6 while ewg is mevd17.2.g) part catalogue would offer

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But you?re also the one spreading incorrect info because lack of experience or seeing something physically just because you didn?t find any parts catalogues listing a PWG 435i and in fact that unicorn does exist. So which shoe are you wearing, just asking don?t take it the wrong way friend.
Lol it?s out there man but I can?t nor will I try to convince you otherwise what I?ve seen or numerous confirmations from others that were baffled like I was. You seem to be pretty set on what a catalogue says like it has no mistakes in it or any other written form of books or writings.

If someone reads this with a PWG 435i perhaps they can throw up a vin for you.
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Guys, what’s being said is EWG is faster than piggybacked PWG on stock hardware, not FBO.
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It would be interesting to get 435 pwg vin and check it, I'm not trying convince anybody.

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Lol it?s out there man but I can?t nor will I try to convince you otherwise what I?ve seen or numerous confirmations from others that were baffled like I was. You seem to be pretty set on what a catalogue says like it has no mistakes in it or any other written form of books or writings.

If someone reads this with a PWG 435i perhaps they can throw up a vin for you.
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don't know about piggybacks, I'm not using them at all, I just don't think it's a proper way to tune the engine. Again, not trying to convince anyone, it's just my personal opinion...
here is my 335xi acceleration, still with stock pwg turbo and factory catted downpipe, only hardware mod is chargepipe (stock was blown),sorry for shaky video :


so if anybody could show _stock_ 335i ewg/435i accelerating faster 0-160km/h (0-100mph) I would happy to tell that I was wrong. From what I've seen and tested stock 335/435 ewg does it in ~2 seconds more.
Either way, I will upgrade to stage1 turbo for sure (will target to 1.0 bar or 14.5 psi @ 6000rpm) as boost drop near redline is not acceptable for me


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Guys, what’s being said is EWG is faster than piggybacked PWG on stock hardware, not FBO.
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Here's why ewg is faster.

When you go from a roll or once you get up to speed, you spend 99% of the time above 4500-5k rpm. PWG falls off a cliff after 5k rpm and ewg starts falling after 5800-6k rpm. That extra power band is huge for top end which pwg is lacking.
Can anyone dig up stock PWG versus EWG dynos? Would be interesting to compare the power curve like mentioned above..

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Guys, what’s being said is EWG is faster than piggybacked PWG on stock hardware, not FBO.
Does mppk count? When I had just mppk i was pulling on a guy with a 14 activehybrid, not by much but win is win.
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Guys, what’s being said is EWG is faster than piggybacked PWG on stock hardware, not FBO.
Does mppk count? When I had just mppk i was pulling on a guy with a 14 activehybrid, not by much but win is win.
Imo No because the MPPK utilizes a different map from bmw that called for like 2 more PSi of boost. I want to say completely stock PWG and EWG utilizes the same boost map but naturally the EWG both a lightly bigger turbo pulls a way top end regardless.
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