F80 Cluster installed in my F30

armenh7 · 10-09-2024, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by armenh7

Does anybody know how to code out the shift lights? They are all red starting from 5000 rpm and it doesn't look good.

Answering my own question
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_TIMEOUT
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_ALIVE
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_APPL

Setting these 3 to nicht_aktiv will disable the shift lights BUT you also lose RPM if you have HUD.

SuspecTARX · 10-11-2024, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armenh7

Answering my own question
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_TIMEOUT
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_ALIVE
CTR_DISP_M_SYS_APPL

Setting these 3 to nicht_aktiv will disable the shift lights BUT you also lose RPM if you have HUD.

I coded it to show the one yellow and two red shift lights a few weeks ago, only changed two of these values if I remember correctly and my M HUD still works, or by RPM on the HUD you meant the shift lights above the M HUD?

Shift lights don't flash for me anyways since I can't reach the rpm needed, so I can't test those

armenh7 · 10-11-2024, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

I coded it to show the one yellow and two red shift lights a few weeks ago, only changed two of these values if I remember correctly and my M HUD still works, or by RPM on the HUD you meant the shift lights above the M HUD?

Shift lights don't flash for me anyways since I can't reach the rpm needed, so I can't test those

When I disabled all 4 values, RPM overall stopped working in the HUD. Can you check which values you disabled please?

SuspecTARX · 10-11-2024, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by armenh7

These are all the differences between F30 and F80 cluster coding.

• BMW_LOGO: ag (00) -> M3 (06)
• DIG_KVA_BEREICH: 20_l/100km (14) -> 30_l/100km (1E)
• HUD_LOGO: wert_01 (00) -> wert_02 (06)
• KL_PREDRIVE_F51_DTC_SCHRIFT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• DSC_ENABLE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• M_DRIVE_BLINKFREQUENZ: wert_02 (00) -> wert_01 (06)
• SPA_ENABLE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SPA_IST_GANG_ENABLE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ALLRAD: allrad (01) -> kein_allrad (00)
• M_VARIANTE: ag_variante (00) -> motorsport (01)
• VZA_ENABLE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• BR_KENNUNG: f30 (04) -> f80 (0B)
• TACHO_HUD_HYSTERESIS: wert_01 (00) -> wert_02 (02)
• SU_SW_DRDY_TIMEOUT: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_ALIVE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_2_TIMEOUT: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_2_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• DISP_DCRN_ASST_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• MOST_LISTE_N_V_EMPFANGEN: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_TIMEOUT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_ALIVE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_APPL: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_TIMEOUT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_ALIVE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_APPL: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• TNK_FILTER_STEIGEND: 90_liter_h (66) -> 150_liter_h (AA)
• TNK_FILTER_FALLEND: 90_liter_h (66) -> 150_liter_h (AA)
• TNK_RW_VERBRAUCH: 8l_100km (10) -> 10l_100km (14)
• KI_PIA_ANALOG_RW_KVA: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• KI_PIA_M_SPORT_DIGI_TACHO: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• HUD_PIA_M_SPORT: inaktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_1: menue_3 (01) -> menue_4 (02)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_1: menue_3 (05) -> menue_4 (04)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_2: menue_3 (02) -> menue_4 (04)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_2: menue_3 (04) -> menue_4 (03)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_3: menue_3 (04) -> menue_4 (06)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_3: menue_3 (03) -> menue_4 (07)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_4: menue_3 (06) -> menue_4 (0F)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_4: menue_3 (07) -> menue_4 (0F)
• FDS_MENUE: menue_3 (03) -> menue_4 (04)

Did you pull the F8x values from an actual F8x or those are the standard F8x values the cluster you installed had?

armenh7 · 10-11-2024, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

Did you pull the F8x values from an actual F8x or those are the standard F8x values the cluster you installed had?

This is comparing cluster VO coding between a 340i and M3

phoenixorion · 10-15-2024, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by armenh7

These are all the differences between F30 and F80 cluster coding.

• BMW_LOGO: ag (00) -> M3 (06)
• DIG_KVA_BEREICH: 20_l/100km (14) -> 30_l/100km (1E)
• HUD_LOGO: wert_01 (00) -> wert_02 (06)
• KL_PREDRIVE_F51_DTC_SCHRIFT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• DSC_ENABLE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• M_DRIVE_BLINKFREQUENZ: wert_02 (00) -> wert_01 (06)
• SPA_ENABLE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SPA_IST_GANG_ENABLE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ALLRAD: allrad (01) -> kein_allrad (00)
• M_VARIANTE: ag_variante (00) -> motorsport (01)
• VZA_ENABLE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• BR_KENNUNG: f30 (04) -> f80 (0B)
• TACHO_HUD_HYSTERESIS: wert_01 (00) -> wert_02 (02)
• SU_SW_DRDY_TIMEOUT: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_ALIVE: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_2_TIMEOUT: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• SU_SW_DRDY_2_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• DISP_DCRN_ASST_APPL: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• MOST_LISTE_N_V_EMPFANGEN: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_TIMEOUT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_ALIVE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• CTR_DISP_M_SYS_APPL: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_TIMEOUT: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_ALIVE: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• ST_MDRV_2_APPL: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• TNK_FILTER_STEIGEND: 90_liter_h (66) -> 150_liter_h (AA)
• TNK_FILTER_FALLEND: 90_liter_h (66) -> 150_liter_h (AA)
• TNK_RW_VERBRAUCH: 8l_100km (10) -> 10l_100km (14)
• KI_PIA_ANALOG_RW_KVA: aktiv (01) -> nicht_aktiv (00)
• KI_PIA_M_SPORT_DIGI_TACHO: nicht_aktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• HUD_PIA_M_SPORT: inaktiv (00) -> aktiv (01)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_1: menue_3 (01) -> menue_4 (02)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_1: menue_3 (05) -> menue_4 (04)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_2: menue_3 (02) -> menue_4 (04)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_2: menue_3 (04) -> menue_4 (03)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_3: menue_3 (04) -> menue_4 (06)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_3: menue_3 (03) -> menue_4 (07)
• FDS_MENUE_TEXT_4: menue_3 (06) -> menue_4 (0F)
• FDS_MENUE_SIGNAL_4: menue_3 (07) -> menue_4 (0F)
• FDS_MENUE: menue_3 (03) -> menue_4 (04)

Thank you buddy.

phoenixorion · 10-15-2024, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

BimmerRetroLA helped me with the coding when I first got the cluster, you can find him on Instagram or Facebook.

I am fairly certain that it's just a matter of some coding and you should be able to see them without the adapter or xhp as I don't have those on my automatic car

I was educated by shawnsheridan on this:On ///M car, FDS signal comes from DME, and not ICM, and Gear position comes from DKG instead of EGS, so Gear Display and FDS Display's would not work. This is what you have, no FDS (Driving Mode, and no Gear).

sqwinny · 10-15-2024, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oem.plus_440gc

Likely going to be parting out my F80 cluster/adapter in the next month or 2 if anyone is interested, hmu.

Send me a dm if you still have it. I’ll pick it up if it’s reasonable.

armenh7 · 10-17-2024, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

I coded it to show the one yellow and two red shift lights a few weeks ago, only changed two of these values if I remember correctly and my M HUD still works, or by RPM on the HUD you meant the shift lights above the M HUD?

Shift lights don't flash for me anyways since I can't reach the rpm needed, so I can't test those

When I disabled all 4 values, RPM overall stopped working in the HUD. Can you check which values you disabled please?

SuspecTARX · 11-11-2024, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armenh7

When I disabled all 4 values, RPM overall stopped working in the HUD. Can you check which values you disabled please?

Hey, you are correct about the RPM not showing in M HUD after those values being disabled (all or like I have disabled only some of them), I just didn't notice it not showing the RPM anymore when I quickly checked it ��

sqwinny · 11-21-2024, 12:21 PM

I guess it was my turn. Officially ghosted and scammed by George over at Coding Dynamics. Sent cluster and paid them for their services 3 weeks ago.

Posting this everywhere for awareness.

sqwinny · 01-04-2025, 10:58 AM

It's been over 2 months. No cluster. Stated they shipped it the week of Thanksgiving. nothing. George appears to have gone ghost. Avoid at all costs.

Ngnet · 01-15-2025, 11:33 AM

If coming from 6wa cluster, It’s possible to just swap the motherboard from original f30 car and mount it into f80 cluster. No need for to virginize or do any coding. Rpm in heads up will not work obviously.

triax37 · 01-17-2025, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ngnet

If coming from 6wa cluster, It’s possible to just swap the motherboard from original f30 car and mount it into f80 cluster. No need for to virginize or do any coding. Rpm in heads up will not work obviously.

Just to be clear - you just unscrewed your complete F3x motherboard, and reinstalled it into the F8x housing? Any soldering? Everything worked (except for the RPM)? I'm guessing the LED's are still orange, of course, but I may swap to white if I take my F3x cluster apart. Thanks!

Ngnet · 01-18-2025, 11:16 AM

Yup, dynamic rpm won’t work but I just took a red pen and highlighted the white lines to indicates redline. See pics. I was going to go down the route of coding, adapter and all that but too expensive and effort for what it is. Gives the interior a nice vibe. Got the cluster and m3 steering wheel with airbag from a local salvage yard for $500. So all in all it’s a decent bang for buck.

QueenCityLurker · 01-18-2025, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ngnet

Yup, dynamic rpm won’t work but I just took a red pen and highlighted the white lines to indicates redline. See pics. I was going to go down the route of coding, adapter and all that but too expensive and effort for what it is. Gives the interior a nice vibe. Got the cluster and m3 steering wheel with airbag from a local salvage yard for $500. So all in all it’s a decent bang for buck.

That's brilliant. You're a G for that!

Ngnet · 01-18-2025, 06:10 PM

To clarify further, there are two circuit boards in both the f8x and f3x 6wa cluster. The first circuit board is where the connectors to the car are mounted. This board is the brain and has eprom chip which stores the car’s mileage and vin. This needs to remain with the car.

The second circuit board controls the gauge needs (speed, rpm, gas etc…). Thes is the board that can be swapped from f8x 6wa to f3x 6wa cluster to achieve this mod. It’s completely plug and play and fits right up. No soldering, cutting, coding or anything.

Warning- Do not plug in the first board from the donor cluster into your car. If the donor cluster has a higher mileage, your car can instantly jump to the higher mileage.

Do all of this at your own risk and have fun!

cfm56d7b · 01-21-2025, 06:19 PM

Innovative to say the least. Big fan of engineering projects which demonstrate the art of possible. Great writeup!

SuspecTARX · 02-16-2025, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ngnet

To clarify further, there are two circuit boards in both the f8x and f3x 6wa cluster. The first circuit board is where the connectors to the car are mounted. This board is the brain and has eprom chip which stores the car’s mileage and vin. This needs to remain with the car.

The second circuit board controls the gauge needs (speed, rpm, gas etc…). Thes is the board that can be swapped from f8x 6wa to f3x 6wa cluster to achieve this mod. It’s completely plug and play and fits right up. No soldering, cutting, coding or anything.

Warning- Do not plug in the first board from the donor cluster into your car. If the donor cluster has a higher mileage, your car can instantly jump to the higher mileage.

Do all of this at your own risk and have fun!

I wonder which of the boards controls what unit of measure (mph or kmh) the cruise control/LIM uses, as you might know this can't be changed with coding, so if you were to install a US spec cluster into a EU spec car you would have cruise control/LIM values shown in mph, like I do have in mine, minor inconvenience, but would be nice to sort it

Might try playing around with my clusters and see if anything changes

SuspecTARX · 02-16-2025, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ngnet

Yup, dynamic rpm won’t work but I just took a red pen and highlighted the white lines to indicates redline. See pics. I was going to go down the route of coding, adapter and all that but too expensive and effort for what it is. Gives the interior a nice vibe. Got the cluster and m3 steering wheel with airbag from a local salvage yard for $500. So all in all it’s a decent bang for buck.

How are your rpm gauges reacting after this mod? Are they displaying correctly on the larger 8.5k rpm scale or does the cluster think the max is 7.5k where the 8.5k is?

Ngnet · 02-16-2025, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

I wonder which of the boards controls what unit of measure (mph or kmh) the cruise control/LIM uses, as you might know this can't be changed with coding, so if you were to install a US spec cluster into a EU spec car you would have cruise control/LIM values shown in mph, like I do have in mine, minor inconvenience, but would be nice to sort it

Might try playing around with my clusters and see if anything changes

I’m not sure about units because both the donor car and my car were us specs.

Ngnet · 02-16-2025, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuspecTARX

How are your rpm gauges reacting after this mod? Are they displaying correctly on the larger 8.5k rpm scale or does the cluster think the max is 7.5k where the 8.5k is?

This was something I was concerned with initially but to my pleasant surprise the rpm’s and speed display correct values without any coding. Obviously it will not reach 200mph or 8.5k rpm

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Ngnet Private 20 Rep 74 Posts Drives: F30 340i xdrive 6mt Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wilmington DE iTrader: (0)	Yup, dynamic rpm won’t work but I just took a red pen and highlighted the white lines to indicates redline. See pics. I was going to go down the route of coding, adapter and all that but too expensive and effort for what it is. Gives the interior a nice vibe. Got the cluster and m3 steering wheel with airbag from a local salvage yard for $500. So all in all it’s a decent bang for buck. Attached Images
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Ngnet Private 20 Rep 74 Posts Drives: F30 340i xdrive 6mt Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wilmington DE iTrader: (0)	To clarify further, there are two circuit boards in both the f8x and f3x 6wa cluster. The first circuit board is where the connectors to the car are mounted. This board is the brain and has eprom chip which stores the car’s mileage and vin. This needs to remain with the car. The second circuit board controls the gauge needs (speed, rpm, gas etc…). Thes is the board that can be swapped from f8x 6wa to f3x 6wa cluster to achieve this mod. It’s completely plug and play and fits right up. No soldering, cutting, coding or anything. Warning- Do not plug in the first board from the donor cluster into your car. If the donor cluster has a higher mileage, your car can instantly jump to the higher mileage. Do all of this at your own risk and have fun!
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