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      10-27-2016, 02:56 PM   #89
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Actually, it would if it's the MSport wheel; Style 351M.

The offsets are very close to the F30. It's 33 on the front vs. 34/36 of the F30 and 44 rear vs. 47 on the F30.

Where it gets a bit tricky is the overall diameter as you're going from a 225/40 series tire to a 245/40 in the front, and, from a 255/34 series tire to a 275/35 in the rear. I believe this increases the overall diameter to the tune of ~20mm; which affects the speedo some.
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F10 wheels fit perfect on F30, slightly mote aggressive widths and offsets and slightly wider and taller tires.

F10 19" style 351:
F: 8.5x19" ET33, 245/40-19
R: 9x19" ET44, 275/35-19
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F10 20" style 373:
F: 8.5x20" ET33, 245/35-20
R: 9x20" ET44, 275/30-20
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The taller F10 tire sizes instead helps to correct the speedo, since all BMW show higher speed than actual.


Speedo is now showing higher or lower speed than before with 20" wheels?

Wondering if that can be coded out?

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Speedo is now showing higher or lower speed than before with 20"
When taller tires are mounted the speedo show lower speed.

No need to code, since the speedo is close to perfect with F10 tire sizes.
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When taller tires are mounted the speedo show lower speed.

No need to code, since the speedo is close to perfect with F10 tire sizes.
So out of curiosity with 19" tires my F30 shows 47 mph when going 45 mph.

Are you saying the 18" or even 17" would show it going 49-50 mph?
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F10 wheels fit perfect on F30, slightly mote aggressive widths and offsets and slightly wider and taller tires.

F10 20" style 373:
F: 8.5x20" ET33, 245/35-20
R: 9x20" ET44, 275/30-20
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I know can only rely on what others post (which is where you are getting those specs) bu I'm just having a real problem getting my arms around the fact that the 245/275 in 20" would work with a F30 as the OEM 19" 403m are -20mm less.

Besides, those photos show no literally poke compared to photos of 19" F30s with sizes smaller than that - and 437m is ET29/ET40...not that different. There is a poster that tried 19" 275 rear and had scrapping issues.
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When taller tires are mounted the speedo show lower speed.

No need to code, since the speedo is close to perfect with F10 tire sizes.
So out of curiosity with 19" tires my F30 shows 47 mph when going 45 mph.

Are you saying the 18" or even 17" would show it going 49-50 mph?
You have to make a difference between wheel size and tire size.

A F30 with 18, 19 or 20" wheels will show the same speed if OEM F30 tire sizes are used (i.e. 225/45-18 and 255/40-18, 225/40-19 and 255/35-19 and finally 225/35-20 and 255/30-20).

All these tires have almost identical diameter!
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F10 wheels fit perfect on F30, slightly mote aggressive widths and offsets and slightly wider and taller tires.

F10 20" style 373:
F: 8.5x20" ET33, 245/35-20
R: 9x20" ET44, 275/30-20
f30.bimmerpost.com
I know can only rely on what others post (which is where you are getting those specs) bu I'm just having a real problem getting my arms around the fact that the 245/275 in 20" would work with a F30 as the OEM 19" 403m are -20mm less.

Besides, those photos show no literally poke compared to photos of 19" F30s with sizes smaller than that - and 437m is ET29/ET40...not that different. There is a poster that tried 19" 275 rear and had scrapping issues.
There are a lot of factors that influence if an aggressive setup will rub or not. Wheel width and wheel offset, tire width and sidewall height.

When you compare a rear 9x20" ET44 F10 wheel with a rear 10x19" ET40 F80 wheel both with 275 tires you will see that the 437 wheels sits 17mm more aggressive. That's a big difference and it's nothing strange that the F10 wheel fits and the F80 wheel rubs even though both have 275 tires with the same diameter.
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Thanks to (Ray340i) Ray at Velgen for selling me his slightly used VMB6 wheels......looking forward to installing them soon and posting pics!!
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I guess I'm of the thought that BMW makes the selection of the 20" easy for us. For my 2017 f36 440ix GC, I'm just going with BMW's OEM 20" M package wheel/tire set. Part # 36112287896 and link is

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/47...20--STYLE-624M

So damn expensive but I managed to get a deal for the near future. I'm new to this mod world but I'm lovin doing it slowly and reading all the expertise you guys offer.

Two questions for the experts on this:
1) Other than the increased risk of hitting potholes and thus bending the rims etc.., what's the downside of going from 18" factory OEM to 20" OEM for a new f36? I read "performance" in this thread? Okay, what about it?

And 2) Other than looking cool, what's the upside to going from 18" OEMs to 20" OEMs? I was hoping there were more benefits than just the cool factor.

Admit I don't know those answers even after reading this thread but I'm reading all over this board to educate myself.
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Heres mine on 20s Msport suspension
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      06-18-2019, 01:25 PM   #98
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Another EBII with 20 405Ms. No suspension yet though.

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Another EBII with 20 405Ms. No suspension yet though.

Any regrets going with the 405M wheels, in the northeast?
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Any regrets going with the 405M wheels, in the northeast?
I bought the car with these on it. While I love the look and everything, I probably wouldn't CHOOSE to go with them in the North East. Probably going to look for a set of 19's to drive everyday on and then use the 405m's for shows and stuff. 20" with run-flats bring a few cringes at times.
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I bought the car with these on it. While I love the look and everything, I probably wouldn't CHOOSE to go with them in the North East. Probably going to look for a set of 19's to drive everyday on and then use the 405m's for shows and stuff. 20" with run-flats bring a few cringes at times.
Can you elaborate any more? Rough ride on potholes? Damage? I love the look of these and am seriously considering getting them, so any info/advice is appreciated.
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Get rid of the run flats, drop it a little, and you'll love the 20's
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Can you elaborate any more? Rough ride on potholes? Damage? I love the look of these and am seriously considering getting them, so any info/advice is appreciated.
Some potholes can be a little jarring, but no damage. As Styx said, I might just drop the run-flats when they're worn. It'll help a bunch. Just a heads up though, they are a pain to clean, but worth it. I do love the look of them.

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Some potholes can be a little jarring, but no damage. As Styx said, I might just drop the run-flats when they're worn. It'll help a bunch. Just a heads up though, they are a pain to clean, but worth it. I do love the look of them.

Thanks for the info; I really appreciate it. And I assumed they were a PITA to clean... I'm fine with that, considering how much I love the way they look.

Edit: You've got a beautiful car!!

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Thanks for the info; I really appreciate it. And I assumed they were a PITA to clean... I'm fine with that, considering how much I love the way they look.

Edit: You've got a beautiful car!!
Thanks! It was enough to have me get out of my RS4. That car was amazing but the up keep on it was high and it was higher mileage so it was never going to be a collector (low mileage RS4's hold their value very well right now). I do miss the RS sometimes, the 335 can't compare to a 4.2L V8 with an 8250 redline.

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