Brakes buying decision helper: "Factory", "M Sport Brakes", "M Performance Brakes"

free2d · 03-10-2015, 10:50 AM

Still abit confused. So, correct me if i am wrong. Base 335 stock, msport blue and M car all have the same calipers and brake pads? Different only rotor either 340mm or 370mm?

Mine is 335 stock 4 pots with 340mm rotor. Is it possible to change the rotor only to 370mm? Is there any 2 pieces 340mm rotor replacement?

Thanks.

F32Fleet · 03-11-2015, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by free2d

Still abit confused. So, correct me if i am wrong. Base 335 stock, msport blue and M car all have the same calipers and brake pads? Different only rotor either 340mm or 370mm?

Mine is 335 stock 4 pots with 340mm rotor. Is it possible to change the rotor only to 370mm? Is there any 2 pieces 340mm rotor replacement?

Thanks.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1096751

free2d · 03-11-2015, 08:56 AM

Got it. Thanks.

CBoom · 03-17-2015, 06:31 PM

I hope this isn't the wrong place for this but when I ran my VIN through the BMW Electronic Parts Catalogue, it says the replacement brakes for my car are M Performance brakes...I simply have a 335i XDrive Sport Line...thoughts?

DrifterX · 03-22-2015, 03:38 PM

oceanview My car finally arrived at the dealership and I saw it yesterday; I can confirm that it has 340mm rotors up front as well. It's a 2015 428i GC Sport Line /w M Sport Brakes (2NH/S2NHA - it's the same thing for those who think otherwise).

Unfortunately, I didn't drive it and I can't take delivery for another 1.5 weeks due to a business trip

oceanview · 04-05-2015, 06:39 PM

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CBoom · 04-05-2015, 07:18 PM

Thanks OceanView!!

Wlodi · 05-25-2015, 07:40 AM

Can anyone give rear rotor dimensions such as height offset etc?

bimmer_335 · 05-27-2015, 05:11 PM

I just went through every post on this thread. Sounds to me the breaking performance between 435i M-Sport Standard brakes and M-Sport blue calipers brakes ($650 option with 19" wheels) is the same.

Can someone comment on this?

oceanview · 06-01-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmer_335

I just went through every post on this thread. Sounds to me the breaking performance between 435i M-Sport Standard brakes and M-Sport blue calipers brakes ($650 option with 19" wheels) is the same.

Can someone comment on this?

Well as I wrote here: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=43
same applies for the S2NHA Option with 370mm rotor in front.

The BIG difference however is weight!
370mm Rotor of S2NHA = 16.5 Kilogramms
370mm Rotor of MPerformance Brake = 11.8 Kilogramms
So unsprung mass is about 25% less.

oceanview · 06-01-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wlodi

Can anyone give rear rotor dimensions such as height offset etc?

Available dimensions for various front and rear rotor are listed in the Excel table I provided:
http://1drv.ms/1FdPZ3B

norb335i · 06-20-2015, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by free2d

Still abit confused. So, correct me if i am wrong. Base 335 stock, msport blue and M car all have the same calipers and brake pads? Different only rotor either 340mm or 370mm?

Mine is 335 stock 4 pots with 340mm rotor. Is it possible to change the rotor only to 370mm? Is there any 2 pieces 340mm rotor replacement?

Thanks.

So what's the conclusion, will the 370mm rotor fit the default 335i 4-piston caliper or not? The Turner page did not give a clear answer to this question.

Gio72 · 06-20-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oceanview

Available dimensions for various front and rear rotor are listed in the Excel table I provided:
http://1drv.ms/1FdPZ3B

That's a really interesting table!!! Many compliments!
Yes, the weight is much lighter for the front M Performance rotore instead of M Sport! Almost 5kg less for each wheel!!!
It's only strange that in the rear rotors there's an improvement of only 0,4kg for each wheel... Maybe different materials?

4gonopsid · 08-19-2015, 02:02 PM

Just in case anyone knows, does the OEM Bembo/M-Sport Brake package come with Goodridge braided brake lines same as a retail Brembo set would? Or is it purely a caliper upgrade with standard hoses?

RM7 · 08-19-2015, 11:41 PM

Modern kevlar reinforced lines leave nothing to be desired from steel braided IMO.

oceanview · 08-20-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4gonopsid

Or is it purely a caliper upgrade with standard hoses?

This!

Gio72 · 09-06-2015, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gio72

That's a really interesting table!!! Many compliments!
Yes, the weight is much lighter for the front M Performance rotore instead of M Sport! Almost 5kg less for each wheel!!!
It's only strange that in the rear rotors there's an improvement of only 0,4kg for each wheel... Maybe different materials?

Update: it's an error in the table. I measured the weight by myself and on the front rotors the improvement is the same of the rear ones... 5kg less, as a matter of fact, is simply IMPOSSIBLE!

oceanview · 09-06-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gio72

Update: it's an error in the table. I measured the weight by myself and on the front rotors the improvement is the same of the rear ones... 5kg less, as a matter of fact, is simply IMPOSSIBLE!

I took the weight info from various Internet informations. Unfortunatelly they are possibly wrong, I agree. But I had no other correct source

If you can tell me what weight you messured and for which rotor please, so I will put that into my table.

Fat Panda · 09-06-2015, 07:39 PM

Does anyone know what aftermarket pads are there available for the M Sport S2NHA brakes? The only other pads that I can seem find are porterfield's.

Gio72 · 09-08-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oceanview

I took the weight info from various Internet informations. Unfortunatelly they are possibly wrong, I agree. But I had no other correct source

If you can tell me what weight you messured and for which rotor please, so I will put that into my table.

Ok, here's a pic of the front M Sport Rotor (weight in kg):

Gio72 · 09-08-2015, 08:32 AM

And here's the rear one:

oceanview · 09-09-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gio72

Ok, here's a pic of the front M Sport Rotor (weight in kg):

Grazie!

I updated my Excel List.

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free2d Private 0 Rep 73 Posts Drives: F30 335 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Indonesia iTrader: (0)	Still abit confused. So, correct me if i am wrong. Base 335 stock, msport blue and M car all have the same calipers and brake pads? Different only rotor either 340mm or 370mm? Mine is 335 stock 4 pots with 340mm rotor. Is it possible to change the rotor only to 370mm? Is there any 2 pieces 340mm rotor replacement? Thanks.
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CBoom New Member 6 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2013 335i XDrive Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: W. MI iTrader: (0)	I hope this isn't the wrong place for this but when I ran my VIN through the BMW Electronic Parts Catalogue, it says the replacement brakes for my car are M Performance brakes...I simply have a 335i XDrive Sport Line...thoughts?
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bimmer_335 Major 177 Rep 1,123 Posts Drives: 540 mSport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the middle of nowhere, TX iTrader: (1)	I just went through every post on this thread. Sounds to me the breaking performance between 435i M-Sport Standard brakes and M-Sport blue calipers brakes ($650 option with 19" wheels) is the same. Can someone comment on this?
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4gonopsid Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: F36 428i Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Just in case anyone knows, does the OEM Bembo/M-Sport Brake package come with Goodridge braided brake lines same as a retail Brembo set would? Or is it purely a caliper upgrade with standard hoses?
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