[Algreen]

So today I got my AFE power intake today installed it then proceeded to Flash my car with Bootmod3 via my laptop and an enet cable. (Stage 1 ACN91 octane)

Eager beaver that I am I been watching a lot of vids about the process and went ahead without connecting the car to a trickle charger.

Actually the flash and everything went smooth until I restarted the car and the drivetrain/collision errors popped up, then drivetrain is overheated pull over, etc etc.

Outside temps showing 50deg Cent fans blowing, so I went to diagnostics and several codes showed up tried to clear and then.... Nothing, and the connection was I guess lost but the car was still switched on ( possibly the voltage dropped below the allowed threshold?).

Then I restarted bootmod3 and couldn't get it or another OBD2 to connect to the, tried to drive the car forward a little then a nice CLUNK from the gearbox .

Pulled the battery waited 5 mins, then I gained access via bootmod3 etc tried to refalsh back to stock and all is fine until it tries to flash and then the Bootmode agent shows up. See image[IMG][/IMG]

I submitted a ticket waiting for bootmod3 to open, I guess the data that flashed may be somehow corrupted and I have no idea why it would do that to the gearbox???

Maybe the voltage had dropped so low it wasn't giving me access to the DME.

I'll update as soon as I get it resolved hoping that it will help someone in the future seeing as this Forum been a great source of info so far for myself

[rahlow]

Originally Posted by Algreen

So today I got my AFE power intake today installed it then proceeded to Flash my car with Bootmod3 via my laptop and an enet cable. (Stage 1 ACN91 octane)

Eager beaver that I am I been watching a lot of vids about the process and went ahead without connecting the car to a trickle charger.

Actually the flash and everything went smooth until I restarted the car and the drivetrain/collision errors popped up, then drivetrain is overheated pull over, etc etc.

Outside temps showing 50deg Cent fans blowing, so I went to diagnostics and several codes showed up tried to clear and then.... Nothing, and the connection was I guess lost but the car was still switched on ( possibly the voltage dropped below the allowed threshold?).

Then I restarted bootmod3 and couldn't get it or another OBD2 to connect to the, tried to drive the car forward a little then a nice CLUNK from the gearbox .

Pulled the battery waited 5 mins, then I gained access via bootmod3 etc tried to refalsh back to stock and all is fine until it tries to flash and then the Bootmode agent shows up. See image[IMG][/IMG]

I submitted a ticket waiting for bootmod3 to open, I guess the data that flashed may be somehow corrupted and I have no idea why it would do that to the gearbox???

Maybe the voltage had dropped so low it wasn't giving me access to the DME.

I'll update as soon as I get it resolved hoping that it will help someone in the future seeing as this Forum been a great source of info so far for myself

Damn am I glad I'm with Mission Performance. Never anything close to this ever happened to me and I keep seeing random horror stories from BM3 like this. I'm a loyal customer and glad I never jumped ship and potentially had to deal with these headaches. Sheesh.

[Algreen]

Originally Posted by rahlow

Damn am I glad I'm with Mission Performance. Never anything close to this ever happened to me and I keep seeing random horror stories from BM3 like this. I'm a loyal customer and glad I never jumped ship and potentially had to deal with these headaches. Sheesh.

There's a few things that pushed me to choose, ability to switch maps, customisable, seemed like the easiest to work with as well.

Above all PTF have seemed to be able to resolve any issues on the forums reviews are good and the fact they're supposedly able to fix stuff remotely if they do arise, I just got an email back telling me try restarting the car which I made clear that I have.

And fair play the replied on a Sunday so lets see

[kern417]

yeah issues are resolved easily and they are making their app more and more foolproof every week. i had no issues whatsoever but i have some experience flashing my car on other platforms so i know the drill. the main thing is making sure the car is charged and doesn't fall asleep during the first flash (trickle charger, buckle your seatbelt, don't open any windows/doors, etc.).

I've heard more problems with people trying to reach Mission Performance when issues arise. Yet to hear anyone genuinely stuck when flashing BM3.

[Algreen]

Originally Posted by kern417

yeah issues are resolved easily and they are making their app more and more foolproof every week. i had no issues whatsoever but i have some experience flashing my car on other platforms so i know the drill. the main thing is making sure the car is charged and doesn't fall asleep during the first flash (trickle charger, buckle your seatbelt, don't open any windows/doors, etc.).

I've heard more problems with people trying to reach Mission Performance when issues arise. Yet to hear anyone genuinely stuck when flashing BM3.

It's around 7 or 8pm on Sunday their time, and there's been several emails back and forth.

At which point I realised that Halim and Dzenno guys must own the place cos their ain't many people who'd take the time to reply and try and resolve it on a Sunday night, they've asked for my vin and I guess they're working on it.

From my side there was errors no doubt I watched a video blogger saying just drive around for 30mins etc...

Not saying it was that but I'm sure PTFs job would be easier if I stuck to their instructions to a T instead of having asking me if i restarted the car which is warranted cos I didn't hook it up to a charger.

I had it hooked up to charger at home with MacBook usb c crap and it didn't connect so I drove to my office grabbed a laptop, did it right then and their and she's sleeping all alone tonight.

If it doesn't get fixed tomorrow is gonna be on the back of a lorry

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by rahlow

Damn am I glad I'm with Mission Performance. Never anything close to this ever happened to me and I keep seeing random horror stories from BM3 like this. I'm a loyal customer and glad I never jumped ship and potentially had to deal with these headaches. Sheesh.

What other random "horror stories" are you speaking of? Please post links.

[Algreen]

Originally Posted by kern417

yeah issues are resolved easily and they are making their app more and more foolproof every week. i had no issues whatsoever but i have some experience flashing my car on other platforms so i know the drill. the main thing is making sure the car is charged and doesn't fall asleep during the first flash (trickle charger, buckle your seatbelt, don't open any windows/doors, etc.).

I've heard more problems with people trying to reach Mission Performance when issues arise. Yet to hear anyone genuinely stuck when flashing BM3.

I would go with that, I knew their was risk and went with the the company that did their best to resolve it in previous cases.

At the end of the day, I guess like myself, are more like to post a problem looking for help then their good experience with any product.

My only worry is that I've got 2017 f33 and now I'm thinking that my car maybe set up differently to others in the f series. Custom takes time and she's not at home so I guess I'd take just going back to stock for now and I'm willing to wait for fix on the tune.

Never wanted something stock so bad

[Algreen]

Originally Posted by B58togo

What other random "horror stories" are you speaking of? Please post links.

I tried searching and the ones that I came across where mainly articles not forum posts.

All the forum issues I can across where fixed especially the bad ones which they prioritise, hopefully like my gear clunk, it keeps replaying in my head, can't sleep

[nikman011]

Me being someone that reads these forums everyday, I have noticed in general, very few issues at all with ANY of them, MP, BM3, or the others. Most seem like edge cases, or a step missed, but in general, all appear to get resolved, regardless of which company is used. Also, performance numbers look to be roughly in the same ballpark.
I don't think I have seen an issue where someone's motor has been destroyed or damaged, but there might be one or two out there.
Not seeing a down side to short term use yet
Personally the only tune product I have ever had a problem with was the Dinan Stage 1v1, and they gave me a full refund.
PS
Now that I say this I am pretty sure my B58 will EXPLODE on the way in to work, ....

[kern417]

You see them all in the BM3 facebook group since it's across all platforms (N55, S55, international engines, etc.) but they are all resolved within 24 hours. But that's also why new flashes automatically do things like reset adaptations and do full flash. It's not as fast but more foolproof.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by kern417

You see them all in the BM3 facebook group since it's across all platforms (N55, S55, international engines, etc.) but they are all resolved within 24 hours. But that's also why new flashes automatically do things like reset adaptations and do full flash. It's not as fast but more foolproof.

+1

Originally Posted by rahlow

Damn am I glad I'm with Mission Performance. Never anything close to this ever happened to me and I keep seeing random horror stories from BM3 like this. I'm a loyal customer and glad I never jumped ship and potentially had to deal with these headaches. Sheesh.

I'll be in Delaware/South PA this weekend want to meet so we can see how good your mission incomplete is?

[Algreen]

There's a BMW Specialist close by so I took it there hoping to reset the car and all will be well.

And it's not, according to them the Engine ECU is fixable 90%, but the real bad news is the gearbox ECU, apparently it's fried.

They reset all the codes and they're back again.

I don't get why it would fry the gearbox ecu and I don't know them so maybe they're trying it but that's the information that I have.

According to the garage repairs are around 5k,

[Algreen]

UPDATE.

All the reviews on the forum are correct these guys are the best, I have never dealt with a company like this.

The mechanics was trying it for 5k, gave me the fright of my life.

Basically keep all ur firewalls off etc as per their instructions,

My mistake was I didn't do the last step which is the online recode.

These guys are the best for a reason, and they are,

So many emails from Sunday till now, don't they sleep?

To all the bootmod3 team I wish you every success in the future they really deserve the it

[FSociety]

BM3 FTW

[Algreen]

Just got back home been driving around for a good couple of hours.

The car I dunno, so much torque on the Stage 1 91 ACN tune, it's just pulls and pulls but kinda smooth power delivery all the way to the redline which I think has been increased.

The cars heavy so i wouldn't say it was super fast, but with AFE power intake the sound and the feel is amazing.

I didn't really mess with the burbles or other setting was just getting over the relief issues(my mistake totally)

Also the reason I didn't go with the mission tune was the list was just ad on after ad on where as these guys give u access to all their maps for $50. All the other stuff u can customise aswell.... Couple that with the technical support, I think it's excellent value.

Does anyone now how to change a thread title feel like there should *FIXED* in the title

[rahlow]

Originally Posted by FSociety

+1




I'll be in Delaware/South PA this weekend want to meet so we can see how good your mission incomplete is?

Why don't you come toward MD, I'm in Gaithersburg and I'd be more than happy to take u up on that challenge. What u got what u running?

[rahlow]

Originally Posted by FSociety

+1




I'll be in Delaware/South PA this weekend want to meet so we can see how good your mission incomplete is?

Id be even open to posting the results in a post here as a comparison. Obviously driver has something to do with it but I haven't seen anyone else race head up one tuned car vs the other B58. I can meet u halfway. Run what u brung!

[j1980mac]

No need for heated tempers and childish bashing. It's just a tune guys.

This would be an interesting match. I can tell you I have both.

In my opinion I think that BM3 Stage 2 would smoke MP Stage 2 or 3 in a rolling race at any starting speed, or if launch control wasn't used at all.

I think MP launches extremely hard, and definitely feels faster, not sure if it actually is?

BM3 is consistent. Great drivability. Midrange and top RPM band is just fierce.

The MP tune is all over the place when it gets hot outside. In the spring/winter, the tune is great, but runs terrible after temps past 85° F.

[Solid67]

Originally Posted by j1980mac

No need for heated tempers and childish bashing. It's just a tune guys.

This would be an interesting match. I can tell you I have both.

In my opinion I think that BM3 Stage 2 would smoke MP Stage 2 or 3 in a rolling race at any starting speed, or if launch control wasn't used at all.

I think MP launches extremely hard, and definitely feels faster, not sure if it actually is?

BM3 is consistent. Great drivability. Midrange and top RPM band is just fierce.

The MP tune is all over the place when it gets hot outside. In the spring/winter, the tune is great, but runs terrible after temps past 85° F.

Wow, so there's that much difference between MP and BM3 in the midrange and top rpm band? How would you compare the BM3 OTS maps to MHD OTS maps?

[j1980mac]

Originally Posted by Solid67

Wow, so there's that much difference between MP and BM3 in the midrange and top rpm band? How would you compare the BM3 OTS maps to MHD OTS maps?

Never ran MHD. I couldn't tell you for certain.

[jrdoming]

Originally Posted by j1980mac

No need for heated tempers and childish bashing. It's just a tune guys.

This would be an interesting match. I can tell you I have both.

In my opinion I think that BM3 Stage 2 would smoke MP Stage 2 or 3 in a rolling race at any starting speed, or if launch control wasn't used at all.

I think MP launches extremely hard, and definitely feels faster, not sure if it actually is?

BM3 is consistent. Great drivability. Midrange and top RPM band is just fierce.

The MP tune is all over the place when it gets hot outside. In the spring/winter, the tune is great, but runs terrible after temps past 85° F.

As a BM3 Stage 1 owner I can say this accurately describes my experience. I feel like its missing a little on the launch but the mid and top pull is NUTS. I wonder if we'll be able to get best of both worlds one day

[B58togo]

All I know is I’m getting 3.9x-4.0x 0-60 and 7.7x 1/8 mile with BM3, Stage 2 and that is heaps (half a second) quicker than when I had a JB4. I’m hoping with an LSD and transmission flash, I can knock it down another couple tenths.