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Mostly because this is directly associated with a "burble" and the challenge is that most tuners don't care about tuning for funsies and instead feed off each other for their "top secret" formulations. As such, most OTS and general e-tuner maps have the same shit. I haven't seen anyone serious posting anything about valvetronic tuning or injection timing tuning. However, I have been able to recreate (after the exhausting read and mental gymnastics required to decypher what OP is trying to get across) the antilag off-throttle behavior. It's absolutely no secret what is going on here - Ignition timing is retarded, Fuel cutoff is pushed out, and Injection Timing is retarded (i.e. every subarufanboy). Bringing up stuff like wastegate (which is for BOOST control.... ffs) and the likes are just plain ignorant and contribute to the mind-fuckery that the original post is - convoluted and confusing. That said, there may be more going on, like valvetronic tuning, which is why i briefly mentioned it. Further, I don't see the point in picking apart the fact that I do my tuning on my own X3. Previous M2s were powered by the N55. We all share the same powerplant. Why are you hating on those who are trying to advance developments? I was trying to express to OP that I experience the same behavior he desires on my X3 after watching all 78543 of his videos and reading through his wall of text. Then he gets pissed at another member and I for trying to help him out. After all this, I still offer to help and ask questions. If there is a HW rev of the DME unnecessarily purchased out there, I can find it and we can be in business. Once you know what to look for via WinOLS, you can compare bins side by side without definitions required. I have translated a lot of the S55 and M2 configurations over to my N55 X3. Lastly, what have YOU added to this thread???? |
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This is a fun hobby for me. I generally believe people aren't shitty and enjoy the challenge of helping when I can. I have a full time job in industrial controls, software development, infrastructure, and analytics. I won't pretend that I know any of this stuff like a REAL BMW tuner should, but god damn if I can't be dangerous. |
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Holy shit.. Not only have you single-handedly cracked open and solved the case that people have been discussing for years, you did it without imposing any opinions, circumstantial evidence, or conjecture into your analysis! If you haven't gotten the joke by now, /s There seems to be a couple quite dense individuals here (3 f25 owners for some reason) that need some help reading and actually understanding the information they were presented with. OP actually started out his thread with a video very clearly expressing the particular sound he was after. He had originally made a thread on the f22 forums and had began to address people's responses through quotations, all whilst staying mature and calm. Sure he threw in some sarcasm, who isn't guilty of that? ALSO, although I hope we aren't children here (some individuals make me beg to differ), the name calling was started by phantom and continued by anj. ASSES.. AND... This is where the 3 smartasses come in. Anj (you) starts off by stating that you get the same noises. This where the issue begins already. Not sure if there's something wrong with your ears or how they process sounds, but the video the OP first linked, and then subsequently linked another video in direct response to your incorrect assertions shows that there is a very big difference in the noises between x3s and m2s. Even after the video he posted to show the X3 sounds are very different than what he was referring to in his parent post, your undeveloped brain got held up you started spouting about how its EXACTLY how your X3 sounds in your 'sport(+) '. He posted that vid to show the difference, which is VERY apparent, which is why he's confused as to why you're misunderstanding and getting exacerbated for no reason. Here is the key phrase : "What's the point of replying here if you don't even know what you are talking about? None besides M cars are doing this kind of behavior. We are not talking about the sound while upshifting gears (this is stock/OEM sound)." Anyone that knows anything about BMW's sports cars or other performance oriented vehicles very easily can tell the differences between upshift farts (Dct or/vs zf), burbles (natural vs artificial), and the specific resonance that only m2s make immediately after coming off throttle, even when not under that much load, which is heavily emphasized with the removal of the m2s cat. It's absolutely fucking rich when you say you've 'deciphered' the post, when it isn't convoluted or confusing at all, and yet, even now, you still don't know what OP Is talking about. You say there's absolutely no secret as to what's going on? Then why hasn't this been recreated by ANYONE (tuners or modders alike) for the 5 years that this car has been out? Oh no, but you, YOU, the professional self taught tuner/coder, have correctly 'recreated' the behaviour. You said you watched through OP's 78000 videos when he linked a couple, and his wall of text was literally separate thoughts and responses to comments (quotes). THIS is a wall of text, and I doubt your attention span will allow you to fully read through this destruction that I've written up while at work. Let's make things clear here, OP didn't get 'pissed' at you and another member for trying to 'help out', he got 'pissed' cuz you didnt read/understand the fucking thread. And please tell me more about the power plant in your X3 vs the M2. I'm sure the fact that most of the important/essential internals are different parts/materials, and that the air intake and exhaust manifolds are completey different, and their turbos has no impact whatsoever. After all this, you still continue to embarrass yourselves. I'm 23 btw, how about you? I may not have contributed anything previously on this thread, but at I haven't detracted from it. OP said he didn't want a shit talk thread which was directed at you, so who's the real shit-poster here? I feel bad for the corporation that employed you, they must be losing a bunch on all the mistakes you must make for not being able to comprehend simple words and getting so flustered. Last edited by POMFKIMOCHI; 01-15-2020 at 12:33 PM.. |
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Are you the OP's lawyer or significant other to get so worked up about something so trivial?!
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Also, I am genuinely interested in this topic, and would prefer to keep the thread on topic, but there were 1 too many dumbasses harrassing OPs thread for no reason, just thought I'd clear some stuff up. Probably just a waste of finger effort though. |
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If you understand so much, prove yourself. Again, I'll ask - what have you contributed?? You'll be the last person on earth to have these tables exposed. I've even left the axes exposed for your ass to attempt to mine these out. Hell, they're even stock values, so that should be easy for someone of your...... caliber. Good luck. You'll need it. People like you are the reason those who actually make progress take things private. Quote:
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It seems you have a glossing over issue, you should work on that. Maybe try reading things over if it's too much information to take in all at once? You seemed to have missed some important points, but as I digress..
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I apologize for being inactive, but soon after f25 owners strike back at me for no reason (tried to explain them that they are wrong), I just gave up and went back to 2'series forums. Just to be clear, I don't want to have a shit post thread, I all want is get more details about the M2 (N55) behavior.
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There's a right way to communicate in public. Up until the OP started to get frustrated, everything was cordial. Afterwards we have a bunch of children who just bought their first sports car with daddy's money defending someone who already wasn't very clear in their communication. In the end we find out who the assholes are (at least that's useful) but otherwise we really haven't gotten anywhere on the original topic. But hey eff X3 owners cause that's on topic. I would encourage everyone who couldn't find a nice way to communicate to consider how that sort of attitude perpetuates bad stereotypes about BMW owners and drives away newcomers. Y'all need a timeout from the internet and to spend some time in public.
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So.... is there a map for this yet or no...... I’m taking ownership of a m235i this Saturday. And I’m glad I just missed the hellfire that had just been unfolded between people in the later post lmao...
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after over a month this thread has been created i was finally given the chance to watch the video. all the times before i didnt even watch it because based on the discussion of people confusing the "Braaap" sounds. i may have an unclear opinion about. so i just read the replies in the meantime with that being said. i was able to watch the Video under High quality audio ( home theater enthusiast). and i dont know why the OP is having as hassle with some members here BECAUSE THERE IS CLEARLY A DIFFERENCE between upshift brap, burble brap, & throttle lift brap!!!!! this thread should not have been this long etc. Anyway. was still a comical read for me none-the-less OP, were you able to receive the file and see if it worked or are you doing some testing? also i see you mention this feature to be "Hard flashed" which means if you were to successfully able to have it flashed to anny n55 ecu. it would essentially be there all the time and nothing you would be able to change in the drive settings? (comfort/sport/s+). i ask as this is something i would like to have in sport/+ and not in eco/comfort. and lastly is this something that could be done with a MHD unlocked ecu and not just BM3. Last edited by e38740imd; 01-23-2020 at 07:52 AM.. |
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Yo guys check this video out. He retrofit the m2 muffler to a m235i and it makes the fart noises.
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We have to show to MHD, BM3 how many people are interested in this kind of modification. Then we can speed up the whole proces of this development. Quote:
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Please invite your friends into this thread. We need to show, how many people are interested in this modification. I'm pretty sure somebody (tuner) will look into asap. If somebody could get this to work = golden mine. Regards |
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i love that m2 off throttle braap noise need it in my m135i
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