[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Don t forget the terror of Adblu

Seriously if there is any choice I'd go 40i rather than 40d but it is of course your decision sir.

Both will be all weather weapons! bMW nailed this car!

+1

As long as you felt the 40i drove well, then take it.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Don t forget the terror of Adblu

Seriously if there is any choice I'd go 40i rather than 40d but it is of course your decision sir.

Both will be all weather weapons! bMW nailed this car!

+1

As long as you felt the 40i drove well, then take it.

[MashinBenzin]

Sorry. App!

[pdk42]

I suspect the consumption on the 40i will be pretty ugly. Its a much heavier and blunter car that the 340i.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by pdk42

Well...

- It's a massive step up from the F3x in terms of refinement, interior quality and electronic/entertainment systems.

- 3.0d engine is a peach. Plenty powerful enough in this sort of car. Very refined, loads of torque. Good fuel economy.

- For such a big car it handles amazingly well. Great grip, not too much roll.

- Ride, even on 20" rims, was more than acceptable.

- Interior ambience, design, comfort etc top class.

However, it's not the car for me for a number of probably personal reasons:

- I thought I could like a smaller SUV, esp one that drives well- but actually, it's just too top heavy. I couldn't help feeling that I was balanced high up.

- Despite its prowess, its exterior styling is just "challenging". My family took an immediate dislike to it!

So - close, but no cigar!

What I will say though is that if the new G30 delivers the same refinement and improvements in the interior as the x3, but in a 3 series package, then I think it'll be my next car.

Very similar to my views on the X3 and all the SUVs I've driven... want to like them, they tick a lot of boxes, but the drive is just not what I want to feel.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

+1

As long as you felt the 40i drove well, then take it.

However, if he orders a 40i, I think the power has changed and it’s a little down on power. So it might not drive quite like the one he’s already tried.

Although not as you’d tell much difference.

[Rbrown]

Originally Posted by pdk42

I suspect the consumption on the 40i will be pretty ugly. Its a much heavier and blunter car that the 340i.

Depending on the type of driving / roads I am on I get between 27 to 32 mpg.

[KCH1984]

Originally Posted by Rbrown

Depending on the type of driving / roads I am on I get between 27 to 32 mpg.

Impressive, that's similar to what I'm seeing with the X5 in 30d guise.

Bigger car I'd guess but I'd imagine the M40d might see 5mpg maybe 10mpg more? Probably going to be negligible unless you're doing a decent mileage. Although right foot temptation with the petrol is going to be more and it'll probably suffer to a greater degree with spirited driving!

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Rbrown

Depending on the type of driving / roads I am on I get between 27 to 32 mpg.

That's incredible for all the space on offer and the Xdrive full time too.

[KCH1984]

Originally Posted by JustChris

That's incredible for all the space on offer and the Xdrive full time too.

Thinking about it, it's pretty much bang on what I got out of my M135i...just shows you how much the B58 is improved over the N55 given the performance increase as well!

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Very similar to my views on the X3 and all the SUVs I've driven... want to like them, they tick a lot of boxes, but the drive is just not what I want to feel.

For me the problem with SUV's is they bring two things to the party which are very undesirable (at least to the keen driver) in terms of how a vehicle drives - weight and a high centre of gravity. I do accept that if you're looking at one car to do everything (as I am!) then you're faced with a compromise whatever you choose but for me the downsides with performance estates such as the S4, C43, 340i/540i Touring, etc, are less and hence they consitute a more appealing package.

That said I can see that for some the high driving position of an SUV is an attraction and that's fair enough, our requirements are all slightly different and each to their own!

[ep22jg]

I think a major point that’s putting me off the 40i, is that the exhaust on start up would be embarrassing on too many occasions. I know it quietens down when it’s warm in comfort, but if it could be turned to quiet (like Mercedes allow) then it wouldn’t matter.
The fact the 40d is just as quick, especially up to UK road speeds, I’m still swaying that way.

Being driven at 10/10ths I definitely think the 40i is the one to go for.
At 7/10ths, I think the 40d would probably as quick if not quicker.
At 4-5/10ths, the 40d short shifting on the torque, would be quicker.

My driving at 10/10ths is probably 1-2% of my total

As previously mentioned, although these are very good SUV’s, they’re still SUV’s
I’m still thinking that 326ps & 680Nm suits it better than 354ps & 500 Nm

[Rbrown]

Originally Posted by ep22jg

I think a major point that’s putting me off the 40i, is that the exhaust on start up would be embarrassing on too many occasions. I know it quietens down when it’s warm in comfort, but if it could be turned to quiet (like Mercedes allow) then it wouldn’t matter.
The fact the 40d is just as quick, especially up to UK road speeds, I’m still swaying that way.

Being driven at 10/10ths I definitely think the 40i is the one to go for.
At 7/10ths, I think the 40d would probably as quick if not quicker.
At 4-5/10ths, the 40d short shifting on the torque, would be quicker.

My driving at 10/10ths is probably 1-2% of my total

As previously mentioned, although these are very good SUV’s, they’re still SUV’s
I’m still thinking that 326ps & 680Nm suits it better than 354ps & 500 Nm

Don’t be put off by the noise at start up. It’s not too bad.

None of my neighbours have complained. They have actually said they like the noise!

[ep22jg]

Originally Posted by Rbrown

Don’t be put off by the noise at start up. It’s not too bad.

None of my neighbours have complained. They have actually said they like the noise!

Yes ...... and it’s comments like that, that keep me on this bloody fence!!

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Rbrown

Don’t be put off by the noise at start up. It’s not too bad.

None of my neighbours have complained. They have actually said they like the noise!

Originally Posted by ep22jg

Yes ...... and it’s comments like that, that keep me on this bloody fence!!

What time do you leave in the morning though?

I feel very conscious about this with the M4 as I'm often away before 6.30.

It's even worse with the Boxster, as it's much much louder and the most common time I take it out is about 6am on a Sunday morning... no one has said anything yet, which is amazing given most folk have had the their windows wide open for the last few months!

[Rbrown]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

What time do you leave in the morning though?

I feel very conscious about this with the M4 as I'm often away before 6.30.

It's even worse with the Boxster, as it's much much louder and the most common time I take it out is about 6am on a Sunday morning... no one has said anything yet, which is amazing given most folk have had the their windows wide open for the last few months!

Leave for work at 0700.

Go to gym at 0630 on a Sunday.

I start it in eco pro and then touch accelerator pretty quickly as it turns down the exhaust noise. Previous neighbour had a 911 with sports exhaust. It was a nightmare!

Hope the fence isn’t too uncomfy!!!!!

[ep22jg]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

What time do you leave in the morning though?

I feel very conscious about this with the M4 as I'm often away before 6.30.

It's even worse with the Boxster, as it's much much louder and the most common time I take it out is about 6am on a Sunday morning... no one has said anything yet, which is amazing given most folk have had the their windows wide open for the last few months!

I know what you’re saying .....
It’s not just the morning thing! I’ve never liked advertising what I’ve got. I think it’s since I had my E90 335d stolen when on my drive and having my house broken into for the keys?!
My F30 335d is debadged and the X3, what ever flavour will also be!!

I’ve really enjoyed my 335d’s and having had an Audi S4 in between which was also great, I sometimes struggle to understand the negatives towards diesel, especially in an SUV.
I’ve had fast ..ish saloons for well over 10 years and for some unknown reason, fancy an SUV??
The M40i is a great car. For me, I’m coming to the conclusion that the M40d is the best of both comprised worlds ?..

[Lux700]

I’ve just test driven an X4 M40d - I have to say that I was impressed!

As I’m interested in the X3 M40d, this is the closest thing I’ll get to driving one. In fact, they’re probably identical in the way the they drive. Just for the record, and to give others an idea of colour schemes... this one was on 21” rims, carbon black, ivory Merino leather, and piano black interior trim. It looked, up-market and felt it when sat inside.

Pulling out of the dealership I instantly liked the way it felt. Setting off in traffic was effortless and only required a very light touch on the gas. Just burbling along at 30mph it felt like it was on the crest of a wave and ready to catapult forwards. You can actually feel it’s potential before you’ve even tapped into it, if you know what I mean.

I was also curious about the engine note (I’ve been umming and arring for ages about whether to go for the ‘i’ or the ‘d’ ?) but was pleased that the diesel engine in this X4 was smooth and nicely muted, it felt refined, far more refined than my F31 335d. I reset the MPG and we drove along motorway and then off into a town and over a number of roundabouts, eventually onto an A road, so had a varied run. I selected sport mode and it instantly becomes more responsive, the steering, transmission and engine note (piped I suspect). The best way to describe it is that it growls - no pops and crackles, just a growly tone. Not unpleasant! It stays very flat in the corners and had nice, easy steering... felt like I could drive it from Lands End to John O’ Groats in one hit.

I would have loved to have jumped straight into the ‘i’ version to do a back-to-back comparison. Despite having ordered the ‘d’ im still not convinced that I’ve made the right choice? I liked the ‘d’ but would I like the ‘i’ more? I’ll never know unless I can manage to get a drive in one.

Btw... the MPG, for the test returned 43.5mpg. Pretty good for such a performance car.

[ep22jg]

Thanks for the good review Lux700

It sounds like you’re having the same battle as me!!

[Lux700]

Originally Posted by ep22jg

Thanks for the good review Lux700

It sounds like you’re having the same battle as me!!

It’s an odd dilemma! Just want to make sure I end up with the right car in my garage.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Lux700

I've just test driven an X4 M40d - I have to say that I was impressed!

As I'm interested in the X3 M40d, this is the closest thing I'll get to driving one. In fact, they're probably identical in the way the they drive. Just for the record, and to give others an idea of colour schemes... this one was on 21" rims, carbon black, ivory Merino leather, and piano black interior trim. It looked, up-market and felt it when sat inside.

Pulling out of the dealership I instantly liked the way it felt. Setting off in traffic was effortless and only required a very light touch on the gas. Just burbling along at 30mph it felt like it was on the crest of a wave and ready to catapult forwards. You can actually feel it's potential before you've even tapped into it, if you know what I mean.

I was also curious about the engine note (I've been umming and arring for ages about whether to go for the 'i' or the 'd' ?) but was pleased that the diesel engine in this X4 was smooth and nicely muted, it felt refined, far more refined than my F31 335d. I reset the MPG and we drove along motorway and then off into a town and over a number of roundabouts, eventually onto an A road, so had a varied run. I selected sport mode and it instantly becomes more responsive, the steering, transmission and engine note (piped I suspect). The best way to describe it is that it growls - no pops and crackles, just a growly tone. Not unpleasant! It stays very flat in the corners and had nice, easy steering... felt like I could drive it from Lands End to John O' Groats in one hit.

I would have loved to have jumped straight into the 'i' version to do a back-to-back comparison. Despite having ordered the 'd' im still not convinced that I've made the right choice? I liked the 'd' but would I like the 'i' more? I'll never know unless I can manage to get a drive in one.

Btw... the MPG, for the test returned 43.5mpg. Pretty good for such a performance car.

I suspect for 95% of most people's driving the d would be better, but it maybe won't give you quite what you want to feel the other 5% of times.... so which do you go for when neither are bad in any situation? For most it will be balancing their mileage with their need for petrol sounds.

[goodbyalfa]

Originally Posted by ep22jg

As previously mentioned, although these are very good SUV’s, they’re still SUV’s
I’m still thinking that 326ps & 680Nm suits it better than 354ps & 500 Nm

I think just quoting the performance figures alone is missing the point of the petrol. Having recently switched from a 330d to a 440i, I find that for the most part the 440i is no faster than what went before. The 3.0d engines BMW produce are a masterclass in diesel technology, powerful and smooth with a not horrendous noise IMO.
However, when extending the revs in the petrol you are positively encouraged to let it climb, with the corresponding increase in power and all accompanied with the howling 6 pot petrol engine note. Glorious.
Clearly above ~5000 rpm the 440i is plenty faster than the 330d, and put all that together it's probably why I find myself using the loud pedal much more that I ever did in the 330d, as it's far more smile inducing!