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      03-13-2015, 10:38 AM   #1
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F30 folding wing mirrors?

I was unable to spec the folding wing mirrors when buying my new car...I was told that the electric mirrors come capable of folding, they just need enabling :!: It surely isnt as simple as that, so what does it take to get the F30 mirrors folding (which parts are required on top of standard electric mirrors) :?:

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      03-13-2015, 10:43 AM   #2
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I'm pretty from previous posts its hugely costly to retrofit, its different mirror mechanisms, and they are very very expensive!
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      03-13-2015, 10:49 AM   #3
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As above, it's not as simple as enabling them, you would need new new power folding mirrors, wiring and coding, even if you soruce a used set of mirrors I bet you're looking at £1k.
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Sounds like you've been told a load of bullshit to me. Did you buy a stock car? ie. one already built and in the country.

If so, then I think a salesman has sold you the car he has, rather than the car you wanted.
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Like SkyJawa says, the mechanisms from the electric mirrors and folding mirrors is different and can't be coded, it requires new hardware. A fairly costly retrofit as I understand it.
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All the mirrors are capable of folding. If they're not electric folding then you just push them with your hand!

Seriously though, to make them electric folding, you need different mirrors with the motors etc. and wiring loom, mirror switch with button for folding and then coding. This will be several hundred pound notes as the folding mirrors aren't cheap, let alone the other bits.
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Like SkyJawa says, the mechanisms from the electric mirrors and folding mirrors is different and can't be coded, it requires new hardware. A fairly costly retrofit as I understand it.
So pleased that you guys have confirmed this. When I specced mine I was thinking of dropping folding mirrors as I read somewhere it just needed coding, but doubts got the better of me! Happy days
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So pleased that you guys have confirmed this. When I specced mine I was thinking of dropping folding mirrors as I read somewhere it just needed coding, but doubts got the better of me! Happy days
Anyone buying a new car, really needs to ask here first, then the forum will sort their spec out.

Adding in ACC, Pano Roof, adaptive lighting, Msport+, folding mirrors, heated seats, kitchen sink

Will end up with a lovely EBII Tourer, 6 pot of course
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Sounds like you've been told a load of bullshit to me. Did you buy a stock car? ie. one already built and in the country.

If so, then I think a salesman has sold you the car he has, rather than the car you wanted.
Yes I was sold an already built car which was in the country. But in fairness to the saleman; he found a car with the spec or as close to the spec I wanted. I didnt spec folding mirrors so thats my own fault - but it wasnt anyone from BMW that told me the cars are folding ready!

Not a biggy really, I work from home so dont have issues parking / people catching them! When I'm out I park as far away from other cars as possible

Thanks for confirming what I thought!
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Yes, one could argue that several hundred pounds is a lot pay to save using your hand to fold them when you park!
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Don't forget the shoe leather to walk round to the passenger side to fold that one it too.
Add that in and they soon look positively good value
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Anyone buying a new car, really needs to ask here first, then the forum will sort their spec out.

Adding in ACC, Pano Roof, adaptive lighting, Msport+, folding mirrors, heated seats, kitchen sink

Will end up with a lovely EBII Tourer, 6 pot of course
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So pleased that you guys have confirmed this. When I specced mine I was thinking of dropping folding mirrors as I read somewhere it just needed coding, but doubts got the better of me! Happy days
Anyone buying a new car, really needs to ask here first, then the forum will sort their spec out.

Adding in ACC, Pano Roof, adaptive lighting, Msport+, folding mirrors, heated seats, kitchen sink

Will end up with a lovely EBII Tourer, 6 pot of course
Diesel yeah?
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But doesn't the passenger side mirror also only dip on reverse if folding mirrors or electric memory seats are spec'd? I had that on my E92 and it was one thing I used soooo much that getting into cars without it feels wrong!!
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I was unable to spec the folding wing mirrors when buying my new car...I was told that the electric mirrors come capable of folding, they just need enabling :!: It surely isnt as simple as that, so what does it take to get the F30 mirrors folding (which parts are required on top of standard electric mirrors) :?:

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I have just had this done to my nov 2014 car. You require secondhand power folding mirrors, the switch and wiring. It took about 2 hours to do in total and cost around £500 including the cost of the fitting. Clearly this was not done by BMW, since they charge £450 each for the power mirrors excluding caps and mirror glass.

You need the wiring because it needs to be canbus wired into the Front
Equipment Module.

I was slowly going to buy the bits myself - complete s/h power mirrors range from £110 to £200, the 2x dimming mirror glass are around £140, switch about £80 and the wiring maybe £40.

However I found a Indy that did it all in for £500 - who is independently employed by BMW dealers to do some of there retrofits.

PM me if you want his details - he also does F10s and minis. While he was fitting the mirrors he also told me he does other retrofits including comfort access, active cruise control - all with BMW parts either s/h or new.

Edit: you don't need the electric seat for tilt to kerb (dipping), as I understand from by fitter this comes from the FEM module and anyway I haven't got it and dipping works fine. The electro-chromatic (dimming) element however does need the centre rear view mirror with dimming for the wing mirrors to work. Additionally I thought having tinted window would affect the wing mirror capability - it doesn't by much.

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I have just had this done to my nov 2014 car. You require secondhand power folding mirrors, the switch and wiring. It took about 2 hours to do in total and cost around £500 including the cost of the fitting. Clearly this was not done by BMW, since they charge £450 each for the power mirrors excluding caps and mirror glass.

You need the wiring because it needs to be canbus wired into the Front
Equipment Module.

I was slowly going to buy the bits myself - complete s/h power mirrors range from £110 to £200, the 2x dimming mirror glass are around £140, switch about £80 and the wiring maybe £40.

However I found a Indy that did it all in for £500 - who is independently employed by BMW dealers to do some of there retrofits.

PM me if you want his details - he also does F10s and minis. While he was fitting the mirrors he also told me he does other retrofits including comfort access, active cruise control - all with BMW parts either s/h or new.

Edit: you don't need the electric seat for tilt to kerb (dipping), as I understand from by fitter this comes from the FEM module and anyway I haven't got it and dipping works fine. The electro-chromatic (dimming) element however does need the centre rear view mirror with dimming for the wing mirrors to work. Additionally I thought having tinted window would affect the wing mirror capability - it doesn't by much.
Pm me this fellas details please.
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Pm me this fellas details please.
PMed various people!
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I have just had this done to my nov 2014 car. You require secondhand power folding mirrors, the switch and wiring. It took about 2 hours to do in total and cost around £500 including the cost of the fitting. Clearly this was not done by BMW, since they charge £450 each for the power mirrors excluding caps and mirror glass.

You need the wiring because it needs to be canbus wired into the Front
Equipment Module.

I was slowly going to buy the bits myself - complete s/h power mirrors range from £110 to £200, the 2x dimming mirror glass are around £140, switch about £80 and the wiring maybe £40.

However I found a Indy that did it all in for £500 - who is independently employed by BMW dealers to do some of there retrofits.

PM me if you want his details - he also does F10s and minis. While he was fitting the mirrors he also told me he does other retrofits including comfort access, active cruise control - all with BMW parts either s/h or new.

Edit: you don't need the electric seat for tilt to kerb (dipping), as I understand from by fitter this comes from the FEM module and anyway I haven't got it and dipping works fine. The electro-chromatic (dimming) element however does need the centre rear view mirror with dimming for the wing mirrors to work. Additionally I thought having tinted window would affect the wing mirror capability - it doesn't by much.
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PMed various people!
I'll have those details please...
Do you know what other mods he does?
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I'll have those details please...
Do you know what other mods he does?
PMed!
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PMed ss66 and bimmaguy!
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I was unable to spec the folding wing mirrors when buying my new car...I was told that the electric mirrors come capable of folding, they just need enabling :!: It surely isnt as simple as that, so what does it take to get the F30 mirrors folding (which parts are required on top of standard electric mirrors) :?:

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Did you get anywhere with Jason?
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      03-20-2015, 04:18 PM   #22
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Hey tjlees...I haven't contacted Jason yet, had other cheaper bits I wanted to get done first
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