[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by mssond

Yeah doesn’t sound like lowering would work as you could end up constantly in the secondary damper. I wonder if they will fit regular or progressive springs? If they don’t fit the later, then that could be a tuning option?

Also I wonder if the adaptive dampers will be lift-related too?

Thinking it through, I can see the rear having some strange 'stiffness' if simply lowered, at the same time the front rebound will be in the soft range, so a very unbalanced chassis, front to rear. Type of spring will be interesting to see. Must be closely matched to work well with the damper design.

Personally can't see the adaptive dampers really needing the stoke related feature, as the valving is able to do a similar thing, if the valve working range is wide enough. And without requiring the appropriate stroke position to do so. Will be very interesting design and function if the features are combined.

[richatha]

I'll wait until the touring me thinks. I'm still not sure on the back of it.

[NISFAN]

Banging on about being lighter with enhanced track, 50:50 balance, carefully calibrated suspension components, aluminium bonnet and wings to reduce front weight.......then go and ruin it with xDrive

2019 BMW 3 Series G20 handling improvements deep dive https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1553619

[dopper99]

More info on the M340i here

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/unite...auto-show-2018

[Grant_7]

Don't like the front grille in the pics.

Those exhausts look rubbish. What is wrong with round?

But the crowning turd is that digital dash. Honestly, to me, it's looks horrendous. What's wrong with round dials?!

[Archer-s]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Thinking it through, I can see the rear having some strange 'stiffness' if simply lowered, at the same time the front rebound will be in the soft range, so a very unbalanced chassis, front to rear. Type of spring will be interesting to see. Must be closely matched to work well with the damper design.

Personally can't see the adaptive dampers really needing the stoke related feature, as the valving is able to do a similar thing, if the valve working range is wide enough. And without requiring the appropriate stroke position to do so. Will be very interesting design and function if the features are combined.

Just got an image of the new 3 series tilting the wrong way over bumps when someone just sticks springs on it, would ride like a boat! Lol

Good point on the adaptives, the info so far seems to be that the M sport plus pack will have the adaptives, but the M340i won’t, which makes me think the std setup will be more sporty

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Grant_7

But the crowning turd is that digital dash. Honestly, to me, it's looks horrendous. What's wrong with round dials?!

I see it that BMW are trying to stay a bit more driver focused than some marques with a digital dash. Keeps the key information 'dials' live, even when there is other information displayed in the middle of the screen. Allows for a very flexible central display.

I look at it with an open mind, it does make sense 'to me' to have the driving information always the same and active. Counter-clockwise rev display is a bit different, but will only take about five minutes to get accustomed to.

I do prefer simple round dials, (like the first full black panel as in my F11), none of this colour changing for modes stuff. But if we must go fully digital, I like BMW's approach to it.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by E60525d

Interestingly it mentions the car has a wider track!

Yes the xdrive version's track is 1/10th of an inch wider at the rear.

[insanecoder]

slap on an mppsk, lsd and you get a lil m badge

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

I see it that BMW are trying to stay a bit more driver focused than some marques with a digital dash. Keeps the key information 'dials' live, even when there is other information displayed in the middle of the screen. Allows for a very flexible central display.

I look at it with an open mind, it does make sense 'to me' to have the driving information always the same and active. Counter-clockwise rev display is a bit different, but will only take about five minutes to get accustomed to.

I do prefer simple round dials, (like the first full black panel as in my F11), none of this colour changing for modes stuff. But if we must go fully digital, I like BMW's approach to it.

...they are also cheaper - as it's just an LCD screen.

[g9icy]

Originally Posted by F82Dude

...they are also cheaper - as it's just an LCD screen.

The R&D and software probably wasn't cheap though

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by g9icy

The R&D and software probably wasn't cheap though

R & D for what? That was done a long time ago these panels cost peanuts and GUI software isn't expensive when you outsource the work to developing countries.

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by g9icy

The R&D and software probably wasn't cheap though

Lot easier to design and prototype than a physical instrument panel!! And one size fits all markets

[g9icy]

Originally Posted by F82Dude

Lot easier to design and prototype than a physical instrument panel!! And one size fits all markets

I dunno I work in software and it's like herding cats 99% of the time. :P

R & D for what? That was done a long time ago these panels cost peanuts and GUI software isn't expensive when you outsource the work to developing countries.

R&D for the software I meant. I know people who work in the industry and it the software for cars is highly regulated due to all the safety requirements. One bug and you're potentially putting someone's life in danger.

AFAIK BMW don't outsource their software, judging by their job listings.

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by g9icy

I dunno I work in software and it's like herding cats 99% of the time. :P



R&D for the software I meant. I know people who work in the industry and it the software for cars is highly regulated due to all the safety requirements. One bug and you're potentially putting someone's life in danger.

AFAIK BMW don't outsource their software, judging by their job listings.

That's developers for you - they need a little corralling...

Can't think that the graphic displays and coding on a panel is quite as serious as say the control and redundant systems of ABS, traction or an engine management system?

[1966-TR4]

Originally Posted by F82Dude

That's developers for you - they need a little corralling...

Can't think that the graphic displays and coding on a panel is quite as serious as say the control and redundant systems of ABS, traction or an engine management system?

Graphical representation of a speedometer seems pretty serious to me.

[....,,,,..,,..]

Originally Posted by g9icy

I dunno I work in software and it's like herding cats 99% of the time. :P



R&D for the software I meant. I know people who work in the industry and it the software for cars is highly regulated due to all the safety requirements. One bug and you're potentially putting someone's life in danger.

AFAIK BMW don't outsource their software, judging by their job listings.

as with cats, herding dev's can be achieved using pitchforks.

Seriously though, the API will be the same as use daily on other models, such as 5 and 7.

The hardware such as PCAP screens is dirt cheap these days, non touch are equally as cheap. Analogue systems can be harder to implement and invariably increase BoM costs.

I do prefer the flexibility an intellegent display can give over fixed dials.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by g9icy

R&D for the software I meant. I know people who work in the industry and it the software for cars is highly regulated due to all the safety requirements. One bug and you're potentially putting someone's life in danger.

AFAIK BMW don't outsource their software, judging by their job listings.

Given that BMW out source just about everything apart from pressing the panels, the engines and assembly I'd be surprised.

All the other components are made by other suppliers the electronic control systems are all developed by other companies just about every safety critical system in the cars isn't made by BMW, regulation frameworks cover all suppliers not just the assembling brand.

The dashboard's GUI is way down the list of safety issues, your dash failing isn't like your brakes failing or major suspension component breaking, one bug in the dash interface and your life is in danger?

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by 330XDave

You are referring to M140i/M240i. I am referring to 340i/440i. That's the difference! Not sure why the 1/2 series have even come in to the conversation, we are talking about the 3 series and this is a 3 series forum.

I was referring to mlites. As per the X3M40 which also has ferric grey accents.

Last time I looked the X3 was a 3 series. i hope it ok to mention it on a 3 series forum.

[330XDave]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

I was referring to mlites. As per the X3M40 which also has ferric grey accents.

Last time I looked the X3 was a 3 series. i hope it ok to mention it on a 3 series forum.

Read on, the confusion becomes clearer...