First brake service during my ownership

tester2011 · 08-08-2022, 10:41 PM

Hey guys,

I am due for a oil change in 2000k, vehicle is also due for front brake pads in 5000k according to the iDrive on my car. My F30 is still under manufacturer warranty and still entitled to the free maintenance. Having said that what does the brake pad service look like? Do they replace the rotors also? Pic attached.

Thank you

thejeremyman9 · 08-08-2022, 10:46 PM

Did you actually look at the pads?

HarryTee · 08-08-2022, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

what does the brake pad service look like? Do they replace the rotors also? Pic attached.

Thank you

They will have a look at the (front) pads and IF the pads need replacing they'll replace them. While doing that, if they see that the rotors need replacing they'll replacing them also. Consider the warning on your iDrive as a prompt for examination of the pads and not necessarily for replacement.

capt_slow · 08-08-2022, 11:15 PM

The CBS indicator for brakes are a bit weird, the mileage countdown is only a estimate that hits a floor, then will stay there till the actual wear sensor on the pad is triggered.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...46892-9999.pdf

tester2011 · 08-09-2022, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Did you actually look at the pads?

No I did not

thejeremyman9 · 08-09-2022, 03:34 PM

Per above, inspect the actual pads, the iDrive is just an estimate.

tester2011 · 08-09-2022, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Per above, inspect the actual pads, the iDrive is just an estimate.

Thanks. Will do.

tester2011 · 08-17-2022, 08:26 PM

Just got my car back from the dealer. I need new rear pads and brakes. It is down to minimum thickness. They wanted $1360 all in and I declined. I found a indy shop that will do all 4 brakes and pads (Zimmerman) for $1370 all in, with 1 year warranty.

Are Zimmermans any good. Ive been reading mixed reviews.

Thanks

im_an_alien · 08-17-2022, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

Just got my car back from the dealer. I need new rear pads and brakes. It is down to minimum thickness. They wanted $1360 all in and I declined. I found a indy shop that will do all 4 brakes and pads (Zimmerman) for $1370 all in, with 1 year warranty.

Are Zimmermans any good. Ive been reading mixed reviews.

Thanks

I hope you don't see that as a good deal mate, you're still getting hosed I'm afraid...

Billfitz · 08-17-2022, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

No I did not

You can't trust the iDrive guesstimate. The pads, all eight of them, should be inspected yearly. When I first had to replace my rear pads iDrive said they had 30k miles left on them.

Wires · 08-17-2022, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by im_an_alien

I hope you don't see that as a good deal mate, you're still getting hosed I'm afraid...

That's probably in our Canadian peso's, so $1050 USD installed.

johnung · 08-18-2022, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tester2011

Just got my car back from the dealer. I need new rear pads and brakes. It is down to minimum thickness. They wanted $1360 all in and I declined. I found a indy shop that will do all 4 brakes and pads (Zimmerman) for $1370 all in, with 1 year warranty.

Are Zimmermans any good. Ive been reading mixed reviews.

Thanks

Zimmerman are high quality German rotors that are zinc treated against rust, unlike BMW rotors.

Get Hawk 5.0 pads if you can. They are the best street pads so you will notice a difference.

You can't go wrong with plain Zimmerman rotors and new Hawk 5.0 pads.

I don't think that you mentioned your year, model and brake calipers (blue or grey). Parts prices vary depending if you have smallest F312/R300 F30 brakes or the largest at F370/R345.

A good rule of thumb for brake labor from independent shops is $100-$125 labor per corner to install new rotors and pads (get brake pad sensors too- one front, one rear, about $20 each). That should include a complete brake fluid change, bleeding the brakes using the BMW ISTA system procedure to remove all air.

Hope this helps!

B58-Hustler · 08-18-2022, 09:33 AM

I just paid $460 at my local indie shop for a full Mobil 1 synthetic oil change, tire rotation, and front brake service. The brake service was about $360 of that, and included labor, new rotors, and new front sensor. I provided my own EBC Red pads, which were $160 from Amazon. So the price you've got seems maybe a bit high but still fair, I would say, assuming it's 1370 CAD not USD.

tester2011 · 08-18-2022, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnung

Zimmerman are high quality German rotors that are zinc treated against rust, unlike BMW rotors.

Get Hawk 5.0 pads if you can. They are the best street pads so you will notice a difference.

You can't go wrong with plain Zimmerman rotors and new Hawk 5.0 pads.

I don't think that you mentioned your year, model and brake calipers (blue or grey). Parts prices vary depending if you have smallest F312/R300 F30 brakes or the largest at F370/R345.

A good rule of thumb for brake labor from independent shops is $100-$125 labor per corner to install new rotors and pads (get brake pad sensors too- one front, one rear, about $20 each). That should include a complete brake fluid change, bleeding the brakes using the BMW ISTA system procedure to remove all air.

Hope this helps!

Quote:

Originally Posted by B58-Hustler

I just paid $460 at my local indie shop for a full Mobil 1 synthetic oil change, tire rotation, and front brake service. The brake service was about $360 of that, and included labor, new rotors, and new front sensor. I provided my own EBC Red pads, which were $160 from Amazon. So the price you've got seems maybe a bit high but still fair, I would say, assuming it's 1370 CAD not USD.

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Originally Posted by Wires

That's probably in our Canadian peso's, so $1050 USD installed.

Yes thats in Canadian dollars. My vehicle is a 2018 340i with M Sport Brakes (Blue Calliper). That price was by far the cheapest of all others who were upwards from $1700 + tax. I intend to do all 4 and the price I posted was for all 4.

Can anyone from Toronto on this forum recommend me a shop in Scarborough that may offer me a better price?

Thanks

johnung · 08-18-2022, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnung

Zimmerman are high quality German rotors that are zinc treated against rust, unlike BMW rotors.

Get Hawk 5.0 pads if you can. They are the best street pads so you will notice a difference.

You can't go wrong with plain Zimmerman rotors and new Hawk 5.0 pads.

I don't think that you mentioned your year, model and brake calipers (blue or grey). Parts prices vary depending if you have smallest F312/R300 F30 brakes or the largest at F370/R345.

A good rule of thumb for brake labor from independent shops is $100-$125 labor per corner to install new rotors and pads (get brake pad sensors too- one front, one rear, about $20 each). That should include a complete brake fluid change, bleeding the brakes using the BMW ISTA system procedure to remove all air.

Hope this helps!

Quote:

Originally Posted by B58-Hustler

I just paid $460 at my local indie shop for a full Mobil 1 synthetic oil change, tire rotation, and front brake service. The brake service was about $360 of that, and included labor, new rotors, and new front sensor. I provided my own EBC Red pads, which were $160 from Amazon. So the price you've got seems maybe a bit high but still fair, I would say, assuming it's 1370 CAD not USD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wires

That's probably in our Canadian peso's, so $1050 USD installed.

Yes thats in Canadian dollars. My vehicle is a 2018 340i with M Sport Brakes (Blue Calliper). That price was by far the cheapest of all others who were upwards from $1700 + tax. I intend to do all 4 and the price I posted was for all 4.

Can anyone from Toronto on this forum recommend me a shop in Scarborough that may offer me a better price?

Thanks

Check BimmerShops website

tester2011 · 08-19-2022, 11:51 AM

some indy shops want $2100 CDN taxes in for the Zimmermans.

Wires · 08-20-2022, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

some indy shops want $2100 CDN taxes in for the Zimmermans.

That's just unsane. In 2008 I bought EBC pads + 4 Zimmerman rotors + sensors for $600 CAD. Just bought parts for our Audi (larger rotors), and that was 4 Zimmerman rotors + pads + sensors for $850 CAD delivered.

anom3 · 08-20-2022, 01:12 PM

just a quick skim over the thread and am shocked by the markup some are charging for brake service.

i just did front rotors pads and rear pads and I think in usd I dropped about 450 on Zimmerman rotors plus ate pads. if I did the rear rotors I'd hit about 600 for a full service. diy of course but now that I'd done it once it's about 10 mins a corner including popping the wheel off.

2k cad or 1.5k usd is highway robbery!

tester2011 · 08-20-2022, 03:20 PM

Its absolutely ridiculously priced!

Decided to visit the parts department @ BMW. Parts invoice attached.

cfm56d7b · 08-20-2022, 03:41 PM

Another vote for Zimmerman rotors. Would be a great choice.

Billfitz · 08-20-2022, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tester2011

Its absolutely ridiculously priced!

Decided to visit the parts department @ BMW. Parts invoice attached.

You can buy a car for that price.

This is a reasonable price for the rotors:
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...nt-34106797606

Even better:
https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/ZZ-34106797606

chowser51 · 08-20-2022, 05:27 PM

Base brakes and rotors on my f33 was under $300/axle for pads and rotors and about an hour of my time.

Haven’t done M brakes on my F39 yet. Front pads were done free by dealer at 22k miles.

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anom3 Captain 260 Rep 955 Posts Drives: F30 335ix Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0)	just a quick skim over the thread and am shocked by the markup some are charging for brake service. i just did front rotors pads and rear pads and I think in usd I dropped about 450 on Zimmerman rotors plus ate pads. if I did the rear rotors I'd hit about 600 for a full service. diy of course but now that I'd done it once it's about 10 mins a corner including popping the wheel off. 2k cad or 1.5k usd is highway robbery!
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