[Sennen]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Yes, I took this pic walking away from the bay towards Lands End. You would doubtless have approached it from the Porthcurno side.
As for Sunak, G*d knows...

I think it is probably inevitable he will do something, 'what' is anyones guess.

The main reason I got shot was because of the likely hood of increasing the CGT threshold to 40% or inline with your tax rate, paying 28% was bad enough

Anyway the main thing is you and your family enjoy it, you cant put a price on that. If I thought the property was going to 'casacde' down to my son I would have kept it but he showed no interest in it at all, think he has come down twice over the years........ too quiet for him I think.

[JR1664]

Originally Posted by Sennen

I think it is probably inevitable he will do something, 'what' is anyones guess.

The main reason I got shot was because of the likely hood of increasing the CGT threshold to 40% or inline with your tax rate, paying 28% was bad enough

Anyway the main thing is you and your family enjoy it, you cant put a price on that. If I thought the property was going to 'casacde' down to my son I would have kept it but he showed no interest in it at all, think he has come down twice over the years........ too quiet for him I think.

I think you moved at the right time sennen, sad as it was for you but you have the memories. Like you say if your lad showed no interest then where to go ? I get the feeling W country prices will level / drop off and you'll look back on it as a shrewd bit of business. Clearly photos like this don't help but hell its a gorgeous area I agree.

[Sennen]

Originally Posted by JR1664

I think you moved at the right time sennen, sad as it was for you but your have the memories. Like you say if your lad showed no interest then where to go ? I get the feeling W country prices will level / drop off and you'll look back on it as a shrewd bit of business. Clearly photos like this don't help but hell its a gorgeous area I agree.

[TodmordenLad]

Breaking news from The Times: Johnson is getting the army involved to assist during the fuel crisis.

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

Who's going to want to come and work here for 3 months, knowing Christmas Eve you are out of a job again?

Should have made the visas 6 or even 12 months.

Remember what happened last Christmas to EU truck drivers when the French closed the borders and they got stuck here...I wouldn't want to risk that again nor I suspect do they...

Just 1 reason of many.

[JR1664]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Breaking news from The Times: Johnson is getting the army involved to assist during the fuel crisis.

It was at the back of my mind. We have a large military fuel base not far away and often you see fleets of army fuel tankers going in and out.

Exactly how many staff they have I'm not sure but the Army hardly resemble the back up supply they had back in the day of the ambulance and Fire brigade strikes.

[dazzapb]

Got lucky today as I was on fumes! Put 65.8 litres into 65 litre tank somehow?!

Tesco just had a delivery and I only had to queue for a few minutes after me trying fair few in SW London.

Other stations were nuts I would have run out if fuel queuing, most were shut anyway.

Tesco have got barriers and staff to assist with queue jumpers and general idiots. Crazy times, the person behind was getting frustrated as it takes a while to fill. I could see they have 8 odd quid of fuel - so I took even longer

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Breaking news from The Times: Johnson is getting the army involved to assist during the fuel crisis.

How embarrassing for the country.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Wills2

How embarrassing for the country.

As a country, when it comes to self awareness and embarrassment, we are like the foghorn mouthed drunk at the bar, wearing a Hawaiian shirt and Rupert the bear trousers whilst berating everyone else on how to live their lives.

Everyone else largely quietly turns their back and hopes we focus our attention elsewhere.

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Got lucky today as I was on fumes! Put 65.8 litres into 65 litre tank somehow?!

Tesco just had a delivery and I only had to queue for a few minutes after me trying fair few in SW London.

Other stations were nuts I would have run out if fuel queuing, most were shut anyway.

Tesco have got barriers and staff to assist with queue jumpers and general idiots. Crazy times, the person behind was getting frustrated as it takes a while to fill. I could see they have 8 odd quid of fuel - so I took even longer

2 Miles in a X3M really is squeaky bum time..LOL

[winther1]

So absolutely nobody in power could predict this situation? Sounds unlikely.
Guess this will be good for tfl and the case for going electric...

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by winther1

So absolutely nobody in power could predict this situation? Sounds unlikely.
Guess this will be good for tfl and the case for going electric...

TBF the situation has been created by the great British public being selfish and entitled, there wasn't a shortage of fuel before everyone decided that there was an urgent need to create one.

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Wills2

TBF the situation has been created by the great British public being selfish and entitled, there wasn't a shortage of fuel before everyone decided that there was an urgent need to create one.

Yup, a distribution crisis has been transformed into a nationwide fuel shortage thanks to the selflessness of the great British public. Govt ministers instructed the public not to panic buy, so they did just that, immediately.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Yup, a distribution crisis has been transformed into a nationwide fuel shortage thanks to the selflessness of the great British public. Govt ministers instructed the public not to panic buy, so they did just that, immediately.

The scenes have been a disgrace, we know we have issues due to the late unpleasantness but watching people pile in to make it worse has been quite disheartening.

If we all just get what we need, when we actually need it there would be no real issues...nah fuck that I'm getting it now and I'm getting double what I need, me me me...

[mcscoobs]

Originally Posted by Londoner

Really is shocking. Pootling around this morning and got stuck in what I initially assumed was some awful Saturday Enfield traffic. Ended up parking and walking the last half a mile to the shops, only to see it wasn't traffic, but a half mile queue to the Shell station. The road was totally empty further on!!!

Which Shell was it? The traffic from Bullsmoor lane went as far back as the A10/M25 roundabout, it's shocking...

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by mcscoobs

Which Shell was it? The traffic from Bullsmoor lane went as far back as the A10/M25 roundabout, it's shocking...

That's Bonkers...

[MY340i]

local two stations are full of petrol and diesel with virtually no queues.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by MY340i

local two stations are full of petrol and diesel with virtually no queues.

Whereas one of my team has taken a day off for nothing as her ill partner cant get to hospital as hospital transport have no fuel, and the guy fitting my windscreen has to go and join a queue before he can fit anymore as he is out of fuel....

I doubt the selfish pillocks who stocked up just in case care one jot though....

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Breaking news from The Times: Johnson is getting the army involved to assist during the fuel crisis.

It appears they are not now, based on the lunchtime news.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Yup, a distribution crisis has been transformed into a nationwide fuel shortage thanks to the selflessness of the great British public. Govt ministers instructed the public not to panic buy, so they did just that, immediately.

Asking the public not to panic is asking the public to panic. ie toilet roll during lockdown. People are selfish, and it's proven time after time

[AndyCKent]

At the risk of getting shot down in flames, I wonder how many of those in the queues genuinely do need fuel now?

I do 150 miles a week to commute for work so with weekend stuff, a tank tends to last me almost 3 weeks but come next weekend I am going to have to fill up, even if it means sitting in a queue with everyone else!

Wife has half a tank but has a trip planned to see her family for several days in a fairly rural area so its 100 miles each way plus driving whilst there. She is not desperate for fuel but once there, she may not easily be able to get it, hence trying to fill up now. Its that or cancel the trip which has been planned months.

You can call everyone in the queues whatever you want but many will genuinely need fuel at this point, especially those who have avoided it until now but found themselves nearing empty.

With so many places out of fuel, people often cannot risk leaving it until nearly empty so they fill up with half a tank knowing they don't have to worry about risking it later on. We live in a village so require a car to get places, especially with a young child who needs childcare as we both work. Not everyone drives 5 miles a week and panicking buying despite having 3/4 of a tank.

[Bryans69]

Originally Posted by AndyCKent

At the risk of getting shot down in flames, I wonder how many of those in the queues genuinely do need fuel now?

I do 150 miles a week to commute for work so with weekend stuff, a tank tends to last me almost 3 weeks but come next weekend I am going to have to fill up, even if it means sitting in a queue with everyone else!

Wife has half a tank but has a trip planned to see her family for several days in a fairly rural area so its 100 miles each way plus driving whilst there. She is not desperate for fuel but once there, she may not easily be able to get it, hence trying to fill up now. Its that or cancel the trip which has been planned months.

You can call everyone in the queues whatever you want but many will genuinely need fuel at this point, especially those who have avoided it until now but found themselves nearing empty.

With so many places out of fuel, people often cannot risk leaving it until nearly empty so they fill up with half a tank knowing they don't have to worry about risking it later on. We live in a village so require a car to get places, especially with a young child who needs childcare as we both work. Not everyone drives 5 miles a week and panicking buying despite having 3/4 of a tank.

Whilst some people have genuinely needed to fill up, the sheer number of people queueing at petrol stations over the last few days has clearly shown an abnormal purchasing pattern. Unless everyone was planning sudden long trips this week, it was clearly down to panic buying.