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      12-01-2019, 04:13 PM   #1
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Can't decide between 435i and 340i

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I'm new to this forum (in fact new to BMW :P). My first experience with a bmw is on an M4 when I rented it for a weekend as a birthday present to myself. That is when I feel in love with bwm and dreamed of owning one. I currently own a 2016 maxima and looking for a change. I started searching for a used bwm and found 2 cars that I like one is 2016 340i with 44k miles and 2015 435i (M package) with 56k miles priced at $25000 and $24000 respectively. Though I really like the styling of the coupe, I'm hesitant to consider it over the 340i because of the high mileage compared to 340i. I need your help in deciding between these two cars. If I pull the trigger and buy 435i is there anything that I need to look out for. I heard bwm needs a major service every 30k miles, if yes what would that cost me as the coupe is almost due a major service. Any maintenance cost comparison on both cars is much appreciated.

BTW, they both are 6-speed manual's.

340I: https://www.deluxeautosales.com/used...281609f798.htm

435I: https://www.norrisford.com/used/BMW/...earchDepth=1:1

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These cars are difficult to compare. 340 has the newer B58 engine while 435 has the previous generation N55. I prefer B58 and it's never perfect linear power delivery.

Is there a way to learn how both cars were driven and maintenance history? I'd say these two factors are even more important than the engines.
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I started searching for a used bwm and found 2 cars that I like one is 2016 340i with 44k miles and 2015 435i (M package) with 56k miles priced at $25000 and $24000 respectively. Though I really like the styling of the coupe, I'm hesitant to consider it over the 340i because of the high mileage compared to 340i. I need your help in deciding between these two cars. If I pull the trigger and buy 435i is there anything that I need to look out for. I heard bwm needs a major service every 30k miles, if yes what would that cost me as the coupe is almost due a major service. Any maintenance cost comparison on both cars is much appreciated.
I would take the B58 340i over the N55 435i in a heartbeat.
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My 2014 435 xDrive with m package (and many others) was $25k with only 26k miles. Keep looking, there are lots out there.

Whatever you do, get the car inspected before purchase. Hold out for one that has all the features/color you want instead of planning on retrofitting. 6 speed will be less common though, I suggest at least test driving an automatic as the 8 speed is still a lot of fun (coming from someone who's driven manuals almost exclusively).
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I would take the B58 340i over the N55 435i in a heartbeat.

This ^^ without a doubt...., as I currently have a 435 with a few mods .

If you'll be considering future power mods, the B58 is a FAR better platform to build on .

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I would take the B58 340i over the N55 435i in a heartbeat.
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This ^^ without a doubt...., as I currently have a 435 with a few mods .

If you'll be considering future power mods, the B58 is a FAR better platform to build on .

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Hello,

I'm new to this forum (in fact new to BMW :P). My first experience with a bmw is on an M4 when I rented it for a weekend as a birthday present to myself. That is when I feel in love with bwm and dreamed of owning one. I currently own a 2016 maxima and looking for a change. I started searching for a used bwm and found 2 cars that I like one is 2016 340i with 44k miles and 2015 435i (M package) with 56k miles priced at $25000 and $24000 respectively. Though I really like the styling of the coupe, I'm hesitant to consider it over the 340i because of the high mileage compared to 340i. I need your help in deciding between these two cars. If I pull the trigger and buy 435i is there anything that I need to look out for. I heard bwm needs a major service every 30k miles, if yes what would that cost me as the coupe is almost due a major service. Any maintenance cost comparison on both cars is much appreciated.

BTW, they both are 6-speed manual's.

Thanks!!
between these two choices, i would go with the newer car and less miles.

between the 440 and the 340, def the 440.

but back to you original question the 340 is the clear winner here.
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340i would be my choice. The 340i is the LCI (Life Cycle Impulse)/facelift version. In addition to the new motor it got a number of mechanical tweaks that make it a better car.
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Hello,

I'm new to this forum (in fact new to BMW :P). My first experience with a bmw is on an M4 when I rented it for a weekend as a birthday present to myself. That is when I feel in love with bwm and dreamed of owning one. I currently own a 2016 maxima and looking for a change. I started searching for a used bwm and found 2 cars that I like one is 2016 340i with 44k miles and 2015 435i (M package) with 56k miles priced at $25000 and $24000 respectively. Though I really like the styling of the coupe, I'm hesitant to consider it over the 340i because of the high mileage compared to 340i. I need your help in deciding between these two cars. If I pull the trigger and buy 435i is there anything that I need to look out for. I heard bwm needs a major service every 30k miles, if yes what would that cost me as the coupe is almost due a major service. Any maintenance cost comparison on both cars is much appreciated.

BTW, they both are 6-speed manual's.

Thanks!!
If you can find a 440i, I'm inclined to vote for 440i...as this is the choice I'll go with the 340i
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You have 2-3 month's worth of primetime buying season. Wait for the car you want.

Do some research on the available options, wait for the right car and do lots of due diligence for every car. Don't price shop, just take each car for what it is and compare accordingly. Be willing to overpay for the exact car you want if the example is exceptional. Drive a few cars, the more you look the easier it is to know when to pull the trigger. Expand your search radius.

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100% familiarise yourself with the options available so you know what to look for. I didn't do this, bought my first BM was quite lucky with what the previous owner had spec'd but equally surprised some basic things weren't included by default (folding mirrors and split or folding rear seats to name a couple).
Things like upgraded sound system I'm told is a must for most, and pro nav is worth it too.
Get a copy of the sales brochure for that year and have a look
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I'd always go for the 4 Series, even if it is 435i and not 440i. 430i vs 340i..... I'd probably bite my tongue, close my eyes and go for the 3. But 6 cylinder vs 6 cylinder. No-brainer. The 4 has so much more to offer.
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As an N55 owner, I would say go with the B58 in the '40 cars. That engine is soooo strong. I like the look of the 4 series, but really, go with what's practical for you in terms of 3 vs 4.
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These cars are difficult to compare. 340 has the newer B58 engine while 435 has the previous generation N55. I prefer B58 and it's never perfect linear power delivery.

Is there a way to learn how both cars were driven and maintenance history? I'd say these two factors are even more important than the engines.
I looked at the autocheck for 340I and it doesn't show any maintenance records, dealer said the car serviced by the owner. But the dealer of the 435 said it was their manager's son's car. So I guess 435 would have been driven hard, it was averaging 19k miles per year. I have a test drive booked for tomorrow for the 340I, I'll see if they will allow me to take it to a mechanic to inspect it.
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I'll see if they will allow me to take it to a mechanic to inspect it.
This should be a a non-negotiable factor when buying a used car, if they won't let you then walk away.
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I'll see if they will allow me to take it to a mechanic to inspect it.
This should be a a non-negotiable factor when buying a used car, if they won't let you then walk away.
Completely agree. Proper inspection is a must.
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My 2014 435 xDrive with m package (and many others) was $25k with only 26k miles. Keep looking, there are lots out there.

Whatever you do, get the car inspected before purchase. Hold out for one that has all the features/color you want instead of planning on retrofitting. 6 speed will be less common though, I suggest at least test driving an automatic as the 8 speed is still a lot of fun (coming from someone who's driven manuals almost exclusively).
Thanks for the reply, I have been searching for a month now and found these 2 cars with all the options I would like in the car and it is pretty hard to find a 6-speed within this price range with the options I want in it. Even after finding these cars couldn't decide which one to pick. Most of the comments said to go with 340I as it has more power, I have test drive booked next two cars for these cars. Will decide after that
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This ^^ without a doubt...., as I currently have a 435 with a few mods .

If you'll be considering future power mods, the B58 is a FAR better platform to build on .

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Scheduled test drive on both cars next 2 days. Will see which one I like better.
But damn I really like the looks of the 435, that's I'm more biased to 435 even it has more miles on it.
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I looked at the autocheck for 340I and it doesn't show any maintenance records, dealer said the car serviced by the owner. But the dealer of the 435 said it was their manager's son's car. So I guess 435 would have been driven hard, it was averaging 19k miles per year. I have a test drive booked for tomorrow for the 340I, I'll see if they will allow me to take it to a mechanic to inspect it.
Just because AutoCheck doesn’t show maintenance records doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I take it the car is not at a BMW dealer. It’s very unlikely the previous owner did all of his own maintenance since maintenance was included with the new car purchase for either three or four years (can’t remember exactly when they reduced the duration). The dealer/salesman is most likely just feeding you a line. Do get a PPI. Also, take the last seven of the VIN to a BMW dealer service department and ask if they will check the service records for you. You’ll need to go in person as it’s very unlikely they’ll do it over the phone. Also, check the in-service date. A 2016 may very well have some new car warranty left on it.
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You have 2-3 month's worth of primetime buying season. Wait for the car you want.

Do some research on the available options, wait for the right car and do lots of due diligence for every car. Don't price shop, just take each car for what it is and compare accordingly. Be willing to overpay for the exact car you want if the example is exceptional. Drive a few cars, the more you look the easier it is to know when to pull the trigger. Expand your search radius.
Thanks for the reply!!

I have been shopping since a month now and these cars perfectly fit my need. I have already lost a good car, cars.com says these two are hot cars and they would be sold within a week (I don't know how true that is, but don't wanna take a chance). I check which of those is a better car and better deal before pulling the trigger.

BTW, the search radius was always 500miles :P I was willing to do a long drive to get the perfect car within my budget.
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