09-27-2018, 08:43 AM | #1 |
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Best sub $500 Scan Tool?
I do all of my own mechanical repairs/maintenance, and so fair I have been able to get away with a cheap ODBII scan tool. That scanner has been on the frits lately, so its time to upgrade.
What is the best bang for your buck diagnostic scan tool for under $500. I would like something that will do more then just an ODBII reader, and I'm currently looking at the Schwaben scanner, but if there is a better one for a couple of bucks more or a cheaper one that does 90% of what the Schwaben will do for a fraction of the cost great. Even better if it will scan other cars, I currently have vehicles from Ford, GM, and BMW. I'm also an IT Engineer, so it doesn't have to be a handheld either, I have plenty of computers at my disposable. Although handheld is preferred out of conveniences. Share your thoughts!
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09-27-2018, 09:11 AM | #2 |
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The Schwaben, or the identical Foxwell NT510, is all you need. Anything they can't do requires using ISTA, Rheingold, E-Sys and the like. You get software for one brand of cars in the price, but you can buy software for others as well.
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Most recently, on my 335d, I activated the low-pressure fuel pump after the diesel filter change to purge air in fuel system, reset the transmission adaptation after ATF renewal and diagnose the DEF temperature sensor. Note: I also have Carly for BMW. It can do coding but it is poor for diagnostics and servicing the car. Last edited by montr; 09-27-2018 at 12:40 PM.. |
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09-27-2018, 11:53 AM | #4 |
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I also purchased Schwaben / Foxwell NT510 and it already proved itself by identifying head unit faults which required updating the vehicle's software.
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09-27-2018, 12:42 PM | #5 |
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Nice. I think I might go with the Foxwell NT520. Its only a little more then the NT510, but also has support for Mercedes, where the NT510 does not. Otherwise is appears to be pretty much identical. I could potentially see myself buy a Merc for my wife at some point.
Where did you guys buy your Foxwell? I found the NT520 on Amazon for $250, but FoxwellTool.com has it for $179. Although I don't think the site is actually associated with Foxwell, and it seems a little questionable.
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http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...ction_List.pdf Another list is on http://www.foxwellsupport.com/foxwell-nt-510/ http://www.foxwelltool.com/upload/pr...nctionlist.pdf Last edited by montr; 09-27-2018 at 07:20 PM.. |
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09-27-2018, 08:36 PM | #13 |
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I have both Carly and Foxwell NT510. For diagnostic, activation and calibration, there are no comparison. The NT510 is far superior.
The problem with Carly is that it display all the codes, real one and shadow codes, all at once. There are differentiation between shadow and real codes. Shadow codes comes and go. When a problem persist, shadow codes turn into real codes and then the "check engine light" is illuminated. When you read codes with Carly, you do not know which code turned ON your CEL. It is a guessing game. At least, the NT510 let you know the code and type of code. |
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09-27-2018, 09:34 PM | #15 |
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The ECS Tuning scan tool with programming functionality for the $. NT510 Foxwell is the same tool. I actually have an extra brand new Foxwell I would sell you for under $200. Let me know if interested.
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09-27-2018, 11:11 PM | #16 |
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I did not say that shadow codes are unimportant. Carly list both but does not identify which ones are shadow codes. The NT510 gives you both type of codes and identify the one that are shadow codes.
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10-05-2018, 07:50 AM | #17 |
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+1 for the Foxwell/Schwaben NT510. It's never been able to pull my VIN, but has an impressive amount of functionality once the chassis is selected manually. It's way more capable than my E46's Peake reader. Updates seem to come out fairly regularly too.
Overall pleased with the investment; it'll pay for itself 10x over if/when my F31 throws its first CEL.
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For your f30, ISTA+. Not only will it give you the code and in which ECU it's stored in, but it will also run you through the troubleshooting process and has all the repair procedures included. Only benefit to scan tools is they're universal.
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10-05-2018, 04:03 PM | #19 |
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The 510 is easy to use, ISTA+, not so much. ISTA+ is a professional mechanic's tool, Foxwell NT510 is much more appropriate for a weekend mechanic. Anything that requires ISTA+ is probably best left to a pro. The NT510 is also much more than just a $50 OBD reader.
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Back in the day the handheld OBD scanners fit the bill, but nowadays with the complexity of the systems and all the separate ECUs/modules there are in a vehicle, they just don't cut it in my opinion. You can't even replace the battery without registering it after (which I did through ISTA+ as well). |
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10-17-2018, 11:35 AM | #21 |
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The NT510 does that. I suspect that since you have ISTA and are comfortable using it that you've understandably never checked into the capabilities of the NT510, which are considerable. I'll probably look more closely at ISTA should I come across something that I can't do with the NT510 or ESYS, but that hasn't happened yet.
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