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      04-02-2018, 01:28 AM   #67
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uhhh that doesn't sound right (obviously not saying you're lying, just saying what I'm thinking), that f80 must've been really struggling with traction or had a terrifically untalented driver. I went to a 1/4 mile track yesterday and went 8.5 @ 81mph in the 1/8th on my best run, and here we see a stock f80 going 7.5 @ 92mph in the 1/8th http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1045229. I see a bit of a discrepancy here... given, that f80 time was at a very fast strip (Atco in NJ), but that won't make a 1 second and 12mph difference in the 1/8th et and trap speed respectively. maybe the f80 you were staged against was driven poorly and had bald tires... who knows. I wouldn't really consider that a W for the N20, rather a fluke with the M3, because you have no business beating an F80 M3 anywhere past 60 ft.

I did a little write up on my experience at the strip with time slip pics if you want more info: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1481675.

I mean, yes it was a mixture of the driver and the stock factor. The guy didn't have plates. But hey, to be fair, he's not claiming he will beat all M3s, but money doesn't buy skill at the end of the day.
The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
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What ever happened to starting an N20/N26 verified ranking thread?

Interested to see who actually has the quickest cars and what mods they do (and dont) have.
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
Unless there was another M3, that's hilarious he went JB4 and DP right out the box lol.
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What ever happened to starting an N20/N26 verified ranking thread?

Interested to see who actually has the quickest cars and what mods they do (and dont) have.
Not sure. Someone just needs to set it up. I'm ready to show off my 9 sec 1/8 with these runflats spinning right round.
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
here's your time slip. pardon the Christmas lingo they used instead of saying 60ft, 1/8th etc. I guess they never changed over from the holiday season. I believe "happy" translates to 1/8 mile and mph underneath that is obviously 1/8 mile trap speed. the rest should be easy to "translate". also, dates and times on the slip are incorrect. I went on the 31st of march 2018, I'm not sure why the dates/times are wrong. the time slips can be found in the write up I made about my trip to the strip that I linked before: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8#post22999868

I don't blame you for not believing me, I too was very surprised at how quick my times were for how my car is set up. so I'm sure you don't blame me for not believing an n20 car took down an f80 with jb4 and a catless DP. pics or it didn't happen . lol I'm just busting your balls a bit. I believe it, but I also believe that f80 was piloted by the worst performance driver to ever set foot in a motor vehicle.
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
here's your time slip. pardon the Christmas lingo they used instead of saying 60ft, 1/8th etc. I guess they never changed over from the holiday season. I believe "happy" translates to 1/8 mile and mph underneath that is obviously 1/8 mile trap speed. the rest should be easy to "translate". also, dates and times on the slip are incorrect. I went on the 31st of march 2018, I'm not sure why the dates/times are wrong. the time slips can be found in the write up I made about my trip to the strip that I linked before: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8#post22999868

I don't blame you for not believing me, I too was very surprised at how quick my times were for how my car is set up. so I'm sure you don't blame me for not believing an n20 car took down an f80 with jb4 and a catless DP. pics or it didn't happen . lol I'm just busting your balls a bit. I believe it, but I also believe that f80 was piloted by the worst performance driver to ever set foot in a motor vehicle.
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
here's your time slip. pardon the Christmas lingo they used instead of saying 60ft, 1/8th etc. I guess they never changed over from the holiday season. I believe "happy" translates to 1/8 mile and mph underneath that is obviously 1/8 mile trap speed. the rest should be easy to "translate". also, dates and times on the slip are incorrect. I went on the 31st of march 2018, I'm not sure why the dates/times are wrong. the time slips can be found in the write up I made about my trip to the strip that I linked before: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8#post22999868

I don't blame you for not believing me, I too was very surprised at how quick my times were for how my car is set up. so I'm sure you don't blame me for not believing an n20 car took down an f80 with jb4 and a catless DP. pics or it didn't happen . lol I'm just busting your balls a bit. I believe it, but I also believe that f80 was piloted by the worst performance driver to ever set foot in a motor vehicle.
money doesn't always buy skill, young grasshopper.
When, exactly could money buy skill?
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
here's your time slip. pardon the Christmas lingo they used instead of saying 60ft, 1/8th etc. I guess they never changed over from the holiday season. I believe "happy" translates to 1/8 mile and mph underneath that is obviously 1/8 mile trap speed. the rest should be easy to "translate". also, dates and times on the slip are incorrect. I went on the 31st of march 2018, I'm not sure why the dates/times are wrong. the time slips can be found in the write up I made about my trip to the strip that I linked before: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8#post22999868

I don't blame you for not believing me, I too was very surprised at how quick my times were for how my car is set up. so I'm sure you don't blame me for not believing an n20 car took down an f80 with jb4 and a catless DP. pics or it didn't happen . lol I'm just busting your balls a bit. I believe it, but I also believe that f80 was piloted by the worst performance driver to ever set foot in a motor vehicle.
money doesn't always buy skill, young grasshopper.
When, exactly could money buy skill?
supplemented by driving lessons and launch control. Lol. I never said I was the wisest either. That's why I deal with money and numbers, not grammar. haha
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Hmm. It could buy you lessons which then translates to skill. That'd be on the only way as it's not tangible.

I guess we could also wait until we arrive at the age of brain augmentations which allow us to buy modules to then increase our skill. Until then...
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The f80 M3 I Beat was JB4 and Catless dp and Intake, yes sure poor tires and bad driver. But still it's impressive showing what a good driver can do when given the keys to the n20, like take down a f80 w/ driver mod

Also the traction at this track is fucking ass, even my awd would lightly slip, given a better track I'd trap somewhere around 8.4 which I'm going to be headed to here shortly

And hmmm... you trapped 8.5? I really don't believe that. Show me a time slip.
here's your time slip. pardon the Christmas lingo they used instead of saying 60ft, 1/8th etc. I guess they never changed over from the holiday season. I believe "happy" translates to 1/8 mile and mph underneath that is obviously 1/8 mile trap speed. the rest should be easy to "translate". also, dates and times on the slip are incorrect. I went on the 31st of march 2018, I'm not sure why the dates/times are wrong. the time slips can be found in the write up I made about my trip to the strip that I linked before: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8#post22999868

I don't blame you for not believing me, I too was very surprised at how quick my times were for how my car is set up. so I'm sure you don't blame me for not believing an n20 car took down an f80 with jb4 and a catless DP. pics or it didn't happen . lol I'm just busting your balls a bit. I believe it, but I also believe that f80 was piloted by the worst performance driver to ever set foot in a motor vehicle.
Impressive, what's your launch setup? Launch control?
DSC completely off?
Shift on your own?
Sport auto shift? Explain. I haven't been able to break 8.6
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Impressive, what's your launch setup? Launch control?
DSC completely off?
Shift on your own?
Sport auto shift? Explain. I haven't been able to break 8.6
my car is base af, so I don't have a built in launch control function. my launch process went as follows:

1. DSC held down until DSC enters "sport driving characteristics mode". this is what happens when you hold down the traction control button above the drive select switch for about 10 seconds. you know it's in this mode as a notice appears on the screen and steering gets noticeably heavier.

2. Shifter slapped over to the left, putting it in Sport mode. I did not shift on my own, I just put it in sport mode and left it.

3. after doing the above: left foot hard on the brake and get rpms up to about 2800. (this will require you to put the pedal down about 75% as the engine fights the brakes and tries to push the car forward, so you have to put your left foot hard on the brake.) again, I don't have a built in launch control.

4. dump the brake, mash the gas to the floor, point the wheel straight and cross the line.

after following the above steps, your only responsibility is to keep the gas on the floor and the car pointed straight.
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my car is base af, so I don't have a built in launch control function. my launch process went as follows:

1. DSC held down until DSC enters "sport driving characteristics mode". this is what happens when you hold down the traction control button above the drive select switch for about 10 seconds. you know it's in this mode as a notice appears on the screen and steering gets noticeably heavier.

2. Shifter slapped over to the left, putting it in Sport mode. I did not shift on my own, I just put it in sport mode and left it.

3. after doing the above: left foot hard on the brake and get rpms up to about 2800. (this will require you to put the pedal down about 75% as the engine fights the brakes and tries to push the car forward, so you have to put your left foot hard on the brake.) again, I don't have a built in launch control.

4. dump the brake, mash the gas to the floor, point the wheel straight and cross the line.

after following the above steps, your only responsibility is to keep the gas on the floor and the car pointed straight.
My man, you mean to tell me you're running without SAT (2TB) and no LC? We gotta change that...
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My man, you mean to tell me you're running without SAT (2TB) and no LC? We gotta change that...
assuming LC means launch control, then yes, I am lol. how can I change that if it's not already programmed into the car? and what do you mean by SAT (2TB)?
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my car is base af, so I don't have a built in launch control function. my launch process went as follows:

1. DSC held down until DSC enters "sport driving characteristics mode". this is what happens when you hold down the traction control button above the drive select switch for about 10 seconds. you know it's in this mode as a notice appears on the screen and steering gets noticeably heavier.

2. Shifter slapped over to the left, putting it in Sport mode. I did not shift on my own, I just put it in sport mode and left it.

3. after doing the above: left foot hard on the brake and get rpms up to about 2800. (this will require you to put the pedal down about 75% as the engine fights the brakes and tries to push the car forward, so you have to put your left foot hard on the brake.) again, I don't have a built in launch control.

4. dump the brake, mash the gas to the floor, point the wheel straight and cross the line.

after following the above steps, your only responsibility is to keep the gas on the floor and the car pointed straight.
My man, you mean to tell me you're running without SAT (2TB) and no LC? We gotta change that...
I need help changing this too lol

I have BimmerCode and have heard mixed responses on whether or not these can be coded in expert mode?
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assuming LC means launch control, then yes, I am lol. how can I change that if it's not already programmed into the car? and what do you mean by SAT (2TB)?
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I need help changing this too lol

I have BimmerCode and have heard mixed responses on whether or not these can be coded in expert mode?
Yeah, that can be coded in. Like I said, I had the most basic BMW of this series. Old head unit, base "package", etc. I retrofitted the sport wheel w/ paddles, Sport Automatic Transmission (Known as 2TB in ESys), and launch control. LC is self-explanatory, but 2TB allows your shifts to occur much, much quicker. You'll easily notice this as it's pretty much night and day.

As for coding it, I'm not sure if you could do it via BimmerCode. I haven't ever used that system. That being said, I would ask if it's possible to the guys who made it or in the forums under the coding section. I used ESys because it's free, but it is more difficult to use. You run the risk of bricking the car if you click the wrong button. That also being said, I still found it easy to code everything in, in one go and was slow/methodical while doing it. If you're familiar with how to use a computer and want the free route, I recommend it. While you're in there, you can code in everything else you want. Turn off your egg yolks (turn signal bulbs) so that they only come on when you signal them (I hated the yellow bulbs constantly on), turn off Auto Start/Stop, turn on digital speedometer, remove seat belt chimes and the warning screen on iDrive, allow it to play movies while driving, turn on cameras while driving, etc.. This list is crazy.
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Yeah, that can be coded in. Like I said, I had the most basic BMW of this series. Old head unit, base "package", etc. I retrofitted the sport wheel w/ paddles, Sport Automatic Transmission (Known as 2TB in ESys), and launch control. LC is self-explanatory, but 2TB allows your shifts to occur much, much quicker. You'll easily notice this as it's pretty much night and day.
I don't really think I need LC coded in, I do ok without it I think. basically the same premise as brake torquing/boosting. as for the SAT, are you telling me this car came from the factory with 2 different versions of the ZF 8speed auto? and you swapped out for a new trans!? I don't think I'm getting this right. I assume it's just a software difference you're talking about here?
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I don't really think I need LC coded in, I do ok without it I think. basically the same premise as brake torquing/boosting. as for the SAT, are you telling me this car came from the factory with 2 different versions of the ZF 8speed auto? and you swapped out for a new trans!? I don't think I'm getting this right. I assume it's just a software difference you're talking about here?
Honestly, it's more of a "Nice to have thing" It's literally a matter of changing one value. As for SAT, it's the same transmission and yes, has to do with software. All the same software, but the SAT values are essentially turned off. It was the same thing with my paddles. Same connections and everything. I just ran a new wire from one pin up to the steering wheel, turned it on in ESys and Viola! Paddle shifters! SAT shifts your car much faster. Think of it as a snap of the fingers, she just jumps back!
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Honestly, it's more of a "Nice to have thing" It's literally a matter of changing one value. As for SAT, it's the same transmission and yes, has to do with software. All the same software, but the SAT values are essentially turned off. It was the same thing with my paddles. Same connections and everything. I just ran a new wire from one pin up to the steering wheel, turned it on in ESys and Viola! Paddle shifters! SAT shifts your car much faster. Think of it as a snap of the fingers, she just jumps back!
fair point on the LC, definitely a nice thing to have, just not a necessity. interesting... so since we're on the "fastest N20/6" thread, do you think doing the SAT will make the car legitimately faster. enough that you would see the difference on a time slip?
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fair point on the LC, definitely a nice thing to have, just not a necessity. interesting... so since we're on the "fastest N20/6" thread, do you think doing the SAT will make the car legitimately faster. enough that you would see the difference on a time slip?
You would easily see a difference. Groundbreaking? Not really, but in racing, every second counts. You will honestly enjoy the car more IMO.
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fair point on the LC, definitely a nice thing to have, just not a necessity. interesting... so since we're on the "fastest N20/6" thread, do you think doing the SAT will make the car legitimately faster. enough that you would see the difference on a time slip?
I've heard it makes a hell of a difference, especially when doubled with Sport+, and yeah LC I've heard a rumor that it isn't safe to use if your car didn't originally come optioned with it bc they're supposed to come with some kind of transmission cooler, but I guess it all depends on how often or how aggressively you use LC

obviously if you always drive aggressively its gonna cause some strain to the tranny
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I've heard it makes a hell of a difference, especially when doubled with Sport+, and yeah LC I've heard a rumor that it isn't safe to use if your car didn't originally come optioned with it bc they're supposed to come with some kind of transmission cooler, but I guess it all depends on how often or how aggressively you use LC

obviously if you always drive aggressively its gonna cause some strain to the tranny
Hmmm, unsure on the transmission cooler. Thought that was a hot climate package, but not 100%. But yeah, if you do use LC, I wouldn't recommend launching without at least 15 min of cooldown time. But yeah, unless you're dragging it every weekend, should be fine. 86k here with no tranny issues. If you're an XI, even better.
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