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      09-27-2021, 05:52 PM   #23
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I have the MPPK on mine and its honestly not a noticeable or measurable difference to me at least.
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I have the MPPK on mine and its honestly not a noticeable or measurable difference to me at least.
It is actually both noticeable and measurable, with an upgraded inlet at least. Without it, the OEM inlet is probably the bottleneck, so anything upstream doesnt matter.

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I never mentioned an inlet. Inlet on its own, at higher boost levels, does provide gains.
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I never mentioned an inlet. Inlet on its own, at higher boost levels, does provide gains.
I know, i am just saying the distingushing factor at to whether or not MPPK box will make a difference is having the inlet.
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I know, i am just saying the distingushing factor at to whether or not MPPK box will make a difference is having the inlet.
I tested the inlet on the stock box and it made gains the same way as on the MPPK. Any differences here can only be within dyno margin of error.
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I tested the inlet on the stock box and it made gains the same way as on the MPPK. Any differences here can only be within dyno margin of error.
What dyno? What margin of error? Do you even know what’s being measured and how?
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What dyno? What margin of error? Do you even know what’s being measured and how?
What, what dyno? Why are you some keyboard warrior? If you don’t know what margin of error for a dyno means lets not continue.

I was clear when I said there are no gains from stock intake to MPPK. Inlet provides very similar gains on both the stock and MPPK intake.
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What, what dyno? Why are you some keyboard warrior? If you don’t know what margin of error for a dyno means lets not continue.

I was clear when I said there are no gains from stock intake to MPPK. Inlet provides very similar gains on both the stock and MPPK intake.
Keyboard warrior? LOL - I'd put money down I've been on the dyno more times than you have, period. I've got a copy of all my run files, and I've plotted them -But tell me where in this thread a dyno was posted.

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I tested the inlet on the stock box and it made gains the same way as on the MPPK. Any differences here can only be within dyno margin of error.
No one said anything about a dyno - so what measurements are within a margin of error?

And the insults - wow. Look, I'll leave you to spouting off stupid things, and paying $700 for Ebay intercoolers with PTF stickers, everyone else is free to look at the data and come to their own conclusions.
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For everyone else who doesn't to shift through his crap:

TL;DR - MPPK offers better fuel trims and lower WGDC, and in theory (No dyno test to confirm) more power than the stock lower box. It should be on or almost on par with an open intake.
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I tested the inlet on the stock box and it made gains the same way as on the MPPK. Any differences here can only be within dyno margin of error.
Please show me your test results and supporting data of testing the inlet on both boxes. As you should be aware, i have all that data and its documented in multiple threads.

As amuro mentioned, no one is talking about dynos here in this thread. Infact, i specifically state that the inlet isn't expected to change peak hp #s, especially on a load-based tune. That's not what an inlet does. If you read my posts you would understand that and not be argumentative for no reason.

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I was clear when I said there are no gains from stock intake to MPPK. Inlet provides very similar gains on both the stock and MPPK intake.
Sorry, but all the data says otherwise.
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Keyboard warrior? LOL - I'd put money down I've been on the dyno more times than you have, period. I've got a copy of all my run files, and I've plotted them -But tell me where in this thread a dyno was posted.



No one said anything about a dyno - so what measurements are within a margin of error?

And the insults - wow. Look, I'll leave you to spouting off stupid things, and paying $700 for Ebay intercoolers with PTF stickers, everyone else is free to look at the data and come to their own conclusions.
Such a child. Go argue in that tone elsewhere. You believe in bold font and condescending tone, have fun with that. You’re in every thread spouting off including here, complete senseless argumentative nonsense.
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