[teaston]

Originally Posted by MSCD

They're worst. It is a 2 year old tv. Purchased in Dec 2015. It's they're 9000 model as well.

It's your choice I would read up on some reviews.

LG LCD or OLED?

[MSCD]

Originally Posted by teaston

LG LCD or OLED?

OLED especially if you like movies and sports.

[bodtwo]

Go get an LG oled, then more cash on a uhd player and then watch bladerunner 2049 in UHD with good sound.

Oh and if your shelling out on a big screen, have you got sound sorted?

[teaston]

Getting it past the wife is the major problem, even an £800 one! She says what can we watch in 4K, and all I could say is there’s some downloadable films (which we never get time to watch), the grand tour (which she doesn’t watch) and PC/Xbox games (which she doesn’t play, oh and there’s no 4K channels!

So I think the idea is shelved!

[aquazi]

Blue planet 2 is 4k on the iplayer.... looks truely spectacular!

We have a 49” led in our kitchen and its no contest between led (even samsungs qled) and oled.

LG also had kids youtube... which our samsung doesnt... and more app support...

Unless you go sony with andriod tv...

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by teaston

Getting it past the wife is the major problem, even an £800 one! She says what can we watch in 4K, and all I could say is there’s some downloadable films (which we never get time to watch), the grand tour (which she doesn’t watch) and PC/Xbox games (which she doesn’t play, oh and there’s no 4K channels!

So I think the idea is shelved!

Buy a pair of these instead, lofty;

[MSCD]

Sorry to hear that. They'll come down in price. I know Netflix has 4K streaming.

My Samsung is qled and the OLED is better- the true blacks are a step up... that said they are all so much better than 5-10 years ago let alone my childhood!

Any tech on the market it outdated already

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Darth Helmut

Buy a pair of these instead, lofty;

Haha, funny man!

Also another good point is, after watching something in 4K doesn’t HD then look rubbish? Especially the 720p/1080i that Sky HD is broadcast in!

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by teaston

Haha, funny man!

Also another good point is, after watching something in 4K doesn’t HD then look rubbish? Especially the 720p/1080i that Sky HD is broadcast in!

Yes and SD looks positively 'Stevie Wonder'. 4K on a good quality large screen is something to behold. But you are correct, very limited broadcasts and if streaming, a very quick broadband speed is required. I have shite broadband so tend to download 'borrowed' films from the internet and watch from the PC using the TV as a networked monitor hooked up to my AV system. Currently watching Mad Max in 4k. Really brings the film to life.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Darth Helmut

Yes and SD looks positively 'Stevie Wonder'. 4K on a good quality large screen is something to behold. But you are correct, very limited broadcasts and if streaming, a very quick broadband speed is required. I have shite broadband so tend to download 'borrowed' films from the internet and watch from the PC using the TV as a networked monitor hooked up to my AV system. Currently watching Mad Max in 4k. Really brings the film to life.

I can’t believe that programmes are still being broadcast in SD, and especially the BBC 1, ITV & Channel 4 that are on the first page of the Sky guide, when the fuck are they going to sort that out!? And it doesn’t even ask you if you want to watch the HD alternative like freeview has done for years!

[Darth Helmut]

Yes and whilst watching BBC news in the morning, it cuts to a looped screen and states 'HD is not available on the current local news channel' when they go to regional. Fucking luddites.

[kzg1969]

i was is a similar situation just before xmas - but for 65"

in the end, while you could see a difference between LCD and OLED Also bear in mind what you watch/play - mostly we are 50/50 HD/SD(wife) and also the viewing distance. Unless you are very close, UHD isnt noticeable. Taking all that into account, the price gap was simply too high me.

I went sony 8596 (yes edge lit) and quite happy. The samsung 7000 was on the list too. it is noticeable better than the 5year(?) old Samsung 6400.......except SD.

Sony 9305 is technically better but i set a budget and stuck to it - and difficult to see the difference in the flesh.

it is a minefield out there - but late spring is supposed to be a good time to buy

Good Luck!!!!

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Darth Helmut

Yes and whilst watching BBC news in the morning, it cuts to a looped screen and states 'HD is not available on the current local news channel' when they go to regional. Fucking luddites.

It is bad that it did that 5 years ago, but now it's just getting ridiculous! Surely HD cameras are cheap enough now for all the local newsrooms to have one?! :

[teaston]

Originally Posted by kzg1969

i was is a similar situation just before xmas - but for 65"

in the end, while you could see a difference between LCD and OLED Also bear in mind what you watch/play - mostly we are 50/50 HD/SD(wife) and also the viewing distance. Unless you are very close, UHD isnt noticeable. Taking all that into account, the price gap was simply too high me.

I went sony 8596 (yes edge lit) and quite happy. The samsung 7000 was on the list too. it is noticeable better than the 5year(?) old Samsung 6400.......except SD.

Sony 9305 is technically better but i set a budget and stuck to it - and difficult to see the difference in the flesh.

it is a minefield out there - but late spring is supposed to be a good time to buy

Good Luck!!!!

Thanks for this mate, I think you made the right choice, especially with 65" prices!

I'm going to leave the TV for now, but I have ordered an Xbox One X so at least I'll get the better visuals of that, which apparently still makes a big difference even on a 1080p tv.

[bodtwo]

4k TVs with good processing engines will enhance HD 1080, SD you have to think of as an iPhone video with an ‘antique’ filter.

Often comes down to your ‘sources’. Sky q good for 1080 through a 65E LG oled, uhd stuff v good when available. Our sky q box is set for HD only, so we rarely watch anything in SD.

Xbox one x great for uhd’s, games are excellent, very crisp almost to real at times. Difficult to compare as this is a first time we’ve had a console in the room, we’ve a projector room upstairs with normal Xbox/PS4 and that’s a different experience.

Planet earth on uhd Xbox one is at the point of being hard to grasp. It’s reality on the wall, you look at the picture and your brain says that must be cgi, it looks too real, then your brain blanks the surrounding wall and it becomes fully immersive. Same with some of the demos you can get hold of.

It’s also not just the 4K, high dynamic range with almost true blacks is staggering in its clarity. We have hue led light strips behind the tv to give a colour edge enhancement similar to Philips ambilight.

Streaming wise the inbuilt LG media app connects directly to a synology NAS. Not the prettiest interface but plays whatever we throw at it. Again the processing is excellent.

It’s a journey with all this stuff, I’m waiting on upgrading sound, holes in ceiling etc, but has to be timed alongside room decorations etc. Sound for me is as important as picture, no good spending a fortune on eye candy and then a couple of tin cans for audio.

And your right, it’s a ridiculous amount of money. I generally look at a four to five year prime tv use cycle, ie, main living room tv and then into bedroom etc for another few years. Started off with massive 32 Sony trinitron, then panny plasmas, pioneer kuro, last of the Samsung plasmas and then an E6 LG oled last year as its likely the last great 3D tv.

We still have the pannys, 10yrs, and Samsung, 6yrs, the kuro got sold for near enough what we paid for it. So man math at about £10 a week works for me.

Keep looking and enjoy the Xbox.

[bodtwo]

If you’ve room, would you go with a projector? Benq 1080 short throw about £500, motorised screen about £100. Great for movies and games, makes things more of an event.

[pmgreenwood]

Originally Posted by teaston

I can’t believe that programmes are still being broadcast in SD, and especially the BBC 1, ITV & Channel 4 that are on the first page of the Sky guide, when the fuck are they going to sort that out!? And it doesn’t even ask you if you want to watch the HD alternative like freeview has done for years!

One of the nice things about Sky Q now is the return of the favorites facility and the ability to renumber and reorder channels putting the HD channels in their rightful place on your personal front page.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by pmgreenwood

One of the nice things about Sky Q now is the return of the favorites facility and the ability to renumber and reorder channels putting the HD channels in their rightful place on your personal front page.

Yea we’ve got favourites on our Sky HD box, so we can either go to a list of our favourite HD channels, or press the blue button to cycle through them. It is a workaround that shouldn’t need to be done though, and still doesn’t solve the local news problem.

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by bodtwo

Planet earth on uhd Xbox one is at the point of being hard to grasp. It’s reality on the wall, you look at the picture and your brain says that must be cgi, it looks too real, then your brain blanks the surrounding wall and it becomes fully immersive. Same with some of the demos you can get hold of.

Very ture. 4K content fed into our LG OLED looks unreal. You cannot argue with picture quality makes my old Kuro look very mundane.

OLED verus LCD there is no competition.

[teaston]

Just found a very interesting graph on optimal viewing distances, and according to this at the 8ft our eyes are from our TV it would not be worth having a 55” 4K TV, and only just worth it for a 65”! And this is for people with perfect 20/20 vision, if you’re eyesight is less than 20/20 then you’d need to be even closer to see the benefit!

How far do you 4K TV owners sit from yours, and can you really see the benefit of 4K compared to 1080P?

[Darth Helmut]

About 9" and yep, certainly see the difference between HD and 4K.

[kzg1969]

Originally Posted by teaston

How far do you 4K TV owners sit from yours, and can you really see the benefit of 4K compared to 1080P?

indeed! most people wont benefit!

thats one reason i went up from 55" to 65" - because you can
(about 9' away)