Are the proximity sensors disabled in Sport/Sport+ ?

Billfitz · 11-10-2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaisah

Not trying to cause an argument here

but the system works flawlessly in other cars within the BMW range as well as other marquees.

The question was with reference to the F30 series. What other models or brands can do don't help the OP.

Wires · 11-10-2019, 08:00 AM

Not active in my 2016 with surround view either, unless I press the button. I'm with others, there should be the ability to toggle this on/off all the time, and not have to reactive.

As much as you can use the "just need to press the button", when you are pulling into a space, it basically means you come to full stop. Search the console for the button, press and continue. Basically useless.

Skyhigh · 11-10-2019, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by deviantspeed

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The front PDC sensors on the F3x ARE active all the time and WILL signal you if you get too close to an object in the front!
I intentionally get close to some bushes when maneuvering to park at my place, as this automatically activates Surround view and the vehicle remains in surround view when you then put in reverse. Otherwise putting in reverse activates the rear view camera only and I need to manually go to Surround view if I want that. Or I need to press the park button before I put in reverse.

What I don's know however is whether this exact logic and activation applied pre-LCI.

No they are not, you have to actively turn on PDC on a 2017.

In my garage I have limited space, my tool box is larger and weighs more than the F3x, but when I get close, nope. I'm about 11 cm from it right now, just hating the day I actually tap it.

As I said - it most definitely works on mine. But you need to get as close as the „red zone" to an obstacle in front for it to automatically activate! It does not react if you only get as close as the „yellow zone".

I also disliked it at first as if you are really unaware of an obstacle, the red zone is too late for an alert whilst in motion. But I guess it saves you from nuisance warnings as I've seen on some VW where you can go crazy while maneuvering.

Kaisah · 11-10-2019, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by deviantspeed

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Originally Posted by Kaisah

I drove a mk7 golf r for 3 years and never once had the sensors come on by accident

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Lucky you. Grap the vw forums asap then. New 2017+ have sporadic sensor confusions galore, and sunroof leaks, and blown engines, and awd failures. I'm sure I'm missing a lot here.

VW is a mess these days. Thanks for playing!

Chill out. I'm not saying VW is better than BMW or vice versa. No need to be a condescending d**k now

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If you read my other posts you'll actually see I'm agreeing with you..

Kaisah · 11-10-2019, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

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Originally Posted by deviantspeed

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The front PDC sensors on the F3x ARE active all the time and WILL signal you if you get too close to an object in the front!
I intentionally get close to some bushes when maneuvering to park at my place, as this automatically activates Surround view and the vehicle remains in surround view when you then put in reverse. Otherwise putting in reverse activates the rear view camera only and I need to manually go to Surround view if I want that. Or I need to press the park button before I put in reverse.

What I don's know however is whether this exact logic and activation applied pre-LCI.

No they are not, you have to actively turn on PDC on a 2017.

In my garage I have limited space, my tool box is larger and weighs more than the F3x, but when I get close, nope. I'm about 11 cm from it right now, just hating the day I actually tap it.

As I said - it most definitely works on mine. But you need to get as close as the "red zone" to an obstacle in front for it to automatically activate! It does not react if you only get as close as the "yellow zone".

I also disliked it at first as if you are really unaware of an obstacle, the red zone is too late for an alert whilst in motion. But I guess it saves you from nuisance warnings as I've seen on some VW where you can go crazy while maneuvering.

So seems it's active for some and not others. Weird! Probably hidden behind some option or some combination of options. BMW eh

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Once you get used to having to turn it on it's not too bad. Was just nice having it on auto when you're swinging into a space etc. Guess people who didn't have it as auto in the past won't miss it? Meh.

CrumbyButter · 11-10-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaisah

So seems it's active for some and not others. Weird! Probably hidden behind some option or some combination of options. BMW eh

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Once you get used to having to turn it on it's not too bad. Was just nice having it on auto when you're swinging into a space etc. Guess people who didn't have it as auto in the past won't miss it? Meh.

yeah it would be nice to have. can't see how hard it is to program by bmw - basically it should turn on if it detects enough steering wheel movement at low speeds?

Elvisfan · 11-10-2019, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deviantspeed

VW system does, and it's super annoying. Even rain sets off the DAP VW system. It's like the aliexpress system, but you want the real system from a real company like BMW. You are lucky you have the choice here, just tap the button.

Yes, I know tapping a button is hard in this day and age.

We have the f/r sensors on our Acura. We have owned the car for 2 years. They have never gone off in traffic. I admit that they are annoying when I pull in the garage when I don’t need them. Or in a car wash. But they come in handy when I pull into a spot,without having to turn them on. The parking sensors are probably only active at lower speeds.
Can you code them to be always on?

Skyhigh · 11-10-2019, 12:49 PM

They are of course only active in low speed.
There is no related coding (that I am aware of).
I investigated as well initially as I would also prefer if it went off in e.g. the yellow zone, not the red.

Elvisfan · 11-10-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

They are of course only active in low speed.
There is no related coding (that I am aware of).
I investigated as well initially as I would also prefer if it went off in e.g. the yellow zone, not the red.

Thanks.

Skyhigh · 11-10-2019, 01:30 PM

Maybe people should refer to the User Manual more often...

The answers are all in there

deviantspeed · 11-10-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

Maybe people should refer to the User Manual more often...

The answers are all in there

Except that mine does not behave this way.

deviantspeed · 11-10-2019, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaisah

So seems it's active for some and not others. Weird! Probably hidden behind some option or some combination of options. BMW eh

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Once you get used to having to turn it on it's not too bad. Was just nice having it on auto when you're swinging into a space etc. Guess people who didn't have it as auto in the past won't miss it? Meh.

Yup, probably some coding mess of stock vs stock, mine is an exec demo, and have noted some other small items not "stock".

I get within maybe 12-3" from my toolbox when I pull in the garage, nothing lights up. But when I active the system via the button it all lights up and shows it all.

Skyhigh · 11-10-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by deviantspeed

Except that mine does not behave this way.

Mine does (well, haven#t verified speed limits, etc.)
Do you have parking assistant?

deviantspeed · 11-10-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

Mine does (well, haven#t verified speed limits, etc.)
Do you have parking assistant?

I do! (not going to marry you, you trickster!)

Kaisah · 11-10-2019, 04:30 PM

Haha, so it's an option? Typical BMW 😂 rediculous it's not on as standard.

deviantspeed · 11-10-2019, 04:52 PM

Crap, got confused again, no parking assist, it's just Park Distance Control, part of the DAP package on the car.

Skyhigh · 11-10-2019, 05:00 PM

There you go.
Park Assistent is a separate option (5DP).

deviantspeed · 11-10-2019, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

There you go.
Park Assistent is a separate option (5DP).

Blammo, thanks for working through that. My vw did the auto front stuff but didn't have assist, of the same year.

Thanks man!

I don't mind it, actually prefer the option to turn it on if I want to get that extra few inches in there on the front when parking.

Gen13 F36 · 11-10-2019, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wires

Not active in my 2016 with surround view either, unless I press the button. I'm with others, there should be the ability to toggle this on/off all the time, and not have to reactive.

As much as you can use the "just need to press the button", when you are pulling into a space, it basically means you come to full stop. Search the console for the button, press and continue. Basically useless.

Are you serious on "SEARCH THE CONSOLE FOR THE BUTTON, PRESS AND CONTINUE".

How long do you have your car. It took me only one day to know where all the button on my F36...including my gf legs, hands without looking.

AlpineX · 11-10-2019, 11:41 PM

Sky high, you have adaptive cruise right? I seem to recall that was the enabling factor

Skyhigh · 11-11-2019, 12:47 AM

I do indeed, but according to the manual it has nothing to do with it. (See above).

paidnfull · 11-12-2019, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyhigh

Maybe people should refer to the User Manual more often...

The answers are all in there

I was gonna say. I think your car has to have the Parking Assistant package in order for it to work like that. My 2015 F30 is like most here with just the sensors on in reverse, but my girl has a 2016 F48 X1 with the Parking Assistant and her's comes on automatically at low speed for parking & in reverse. Never in slow traffic though, which I still don't get how the car knows.

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Wires Brigadier General 1646 Rep 4,876 Posts Drives: 2016 340i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	Not active in my 2016 with surround view either, unless I press the button. I'm with others, there should be the ability to toggle this on/off all the time, and not have to reactive. As much as you can use the "just need to press the button", when you are pulling into a space, it basically means you come to full stop. Search the console for the button, press and continue. Basically useless.
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Skyhigh Brigadier General 1879 Rep 3,862 Posts Drives: BMW F36 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	They are of course only active in low speed. There is no related coding (that I am aware of). I investigated as well initially as I would also prefer if it went off in e.g. the yellow zone, not the red. __________________ "Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
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Skyhigh Brigadier General 1879 Rep 3,862 Posts Drives: BMW F36 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Maybe people should refer to the User Manual more often... The answers are all in there __________________ "Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
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Kaisah Second Lieutenant 72 Rep 266 Posts Drives: 340i F30 LCI Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Newcastle iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 340i [0.00]	Haha, so it's an option? Typical BMW 😂 rediculous it's not on as standard.
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deviantspeed poopycat 266 Rep 791 Posts Drives: 2017 F31 330ixT Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: I live in a tent around Seattle iTrader: (0)	Crap, got confused again, no parking assist, it's just Park Distance Control, part of the DAP package on the car.
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Skyhigh Brigadier General 1879 Rep 3,862 Posts Drives: BMW F36 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	There you go. Park Assistent is a separate option (5DP). __________________ "Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
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Skyhigh Brigadier General 1879 Rep 3,862 Posts Drives: BMW F36 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	I do indeed, but according to the manual it has nothing to do with it. (See above). __________________ "Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
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