[Russbmw]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Running the powertrain/drivetrain (engine/gearbox/differential/drive shaft/hubs etc...) out of spec by 270hp is taking the piss and risks writing off the car.

You'd be looking at a bill in excess of 40k to replace those, anyone that argues BMWFS are not within their rights to protect their asset is feeble minded.

This is about the sum total of it. as Legthbridge said similarly - it's about what BMW consider "reasonable", given that as mentioned, it is BMWs property, and they are fully entitled to determine what they are happy with in terms of modifications.

If it was me doing what he's done, I would have got something in writing from the dealership confirming that BMW are fine with the batshit crazy modifications I was going to do on their car. He really doesn't have a leg to stand on with no evidence or record of any conversations or agreements, as I said before.

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Watsey

Umm, I think you mean "defamation".

Now, crushing a grape - that'd be deformation

Oooops..!!! I'll blame autocorrect....

Now who's catchphrase was to do with crushing a grape..??? (Showing my age, here)...

[dizzy619]

Originally Posted by DaveA

Oooops..!!! I'll blame autocorrect....

Now who's catchphrase was to do with crushing a grape..??? (Showing my age, here)...

"krackerjack"?

[moonshine]

Originally Posted by DaveA

Oooops..!!! I'll blame autocorrect....

Now who's catchphrase was to do with crushing a grape..??? (Showing my age, here)...

Stu Francis

[Tengocity]

Do we think that the situation would have been different under a straight HP finance agreement?

With PCP there is the option for someone to just leave a car at the end, whereas with HP it's always your liability/asset.

I'm sure the terms are much the same, but I wonder if BMWs attitude to it would have been different.

[lethbridge]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Do we think that the situation would have been different under a straight HP finance agreement?

With PCP there is the option for someone to just leave a car at the end, whereas with HP it's always your liability/asset.

I'm sure the terms are much the same, but I wonder if BMWs attitude to it would have been different.

I would think they would view it the same way in that the asset is still theirs and they would still want to protect against them being left with an asset worth less than they would expect in the event that they need to repossess due to non payment etc. - risk is clearly much lower as it only occurs if the HP payments aren't made as opposed to the much higher likelihood that someone hands the car back with the PCP... Perhaps someone on HP could try the same and then we'll know?

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

Clearly you again have no idea how anything works.

This was a bit of a test case for me to see how the process worked. Given that you can only claim for loss in court and not betterment I'd say the fact that I'm 3k better off is a nice achievement. Especially since it cost me hardly anything in time and preparation and the remedial work I did I did myself I was going to do anyway as part of a larger project.

I find your sniping rather entertaining. I must be really under your skin. I mean not many people can find a way to trash talk winning 3 grand

Unless it cost you 6 grand to win the 3 grand...

Reminds me of the old joke, how do you leave the Casino in Monaco with 1 Million?

Enter with 2 Million.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

I'm not saying I'm right. I'm saying that he has a defence and a case to put forward. I think you will find there are plenty of statements of fact made here by other people backed up by nothing at all. At least I can back up my views and that are my opinions but nobody can say categorically anyone is right. That is what court is for.

Some on here seem to think this is slam dunk case closed hes In the shit. I'm saying something else.

Obviously you are incorrect as was proven by how fast he caved as he knew he was screwed.

[Witney]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Do we think that the situation would have been different under a straight HP finance agreement?

With PCP there is the option for someone to just leave a car at the end, whereas with HP it's always your liability/asset.

I'm sure the terms are much the same, but I wonder if BMWs attitude to it would have been different.

As far as I am aware PCP is treated under law as a "modified" Hire Purchase agreement? I am sure someone more qualified will be along to confirm shortly Hence the reason the VT comes into play with both.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Witney

As far as I am aware PCP is treated under law as a "modified" Hire Purchase agreement? I am sure someone more qualified will be along to confirm shortly Hence the reason the VT comes into play with both.

Don't say modified