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At least I know you're kidding yourself.
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We were doing just fine how we were. All the best bits and none of the worst bits. So we will have control, but amidst chaos, where the interesting theoretical ideas meet the governmental incompetence.
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There are none - unless you live in some 1950's timewarp and think that's where we're heading back to.
Even the most retarded of my Leave acquaintances admits it's a fuckfest, and that it's going to get a lot worse. As he conceded the other evening, "And to make matters worse, we are leaving this to politicians to implement - which is one thing we'd all overlooked". And this is coming from a [very] senior civil servant. God help us
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Just reeling off a load of things you dislike about something doesn't argue that a certain alternative is better. And hence why the last retort of an leaver is to be smug about having won... you can only laugh at the irony.
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My exit is planned, if required. Thankfully I've got international opportunities open to me. Not everyone is so lucky, and in yet further irony, the folks who predominantly voted to leave will be the least likely to do the same. But they'll be in control, so that's ok.
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You should try doing jury service if you think that vid is bad - I've done it twice and it was illuminating - as in
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This is a shit thread, it’s the only one where the likes of LobB show their true colours and then are incapable of holding a decent discussion.
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Our biggest migration issue may turn out to be a lack of it to us, so no more hard working foreigners to pay our taxes and do the shitty jobs the Brits don't want to do, or prop up the NHS because we are too stupid to train enough doctors and nurses, or look after the ones we have properly. But we digress, you came up with all that nonsense to distract that you still haven't been able to come up with any benefits of leaving as yet.
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To be honest pretty much all Brexit threads have degenerated into mud-slinging and/or name calling so this one's not really any different in that respect. Seems to be a subject which brings out the worst in people with any attempt to have a sensible discussion about the issues seemingly doomed to failure....
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I spent a day trying to get a simple answer from Nick.
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I've come to the conclusion that chatting with a hard line Brexiteer is like trying to have a discussion a religious person about god. They're happy to believe in something against all logic and factual evidence. It doesn't matter what you say, it won't change their belief/faith (which is all brexit is based on) and it'll just wind you up.
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His position doesn't stand up to even gentle scrutiny, which is why he keeps reverting to the leaving date, without understanding just how little actually changes - the transition period essentially mirrors EU membership in all but name. I hope all Leavers are so easily satisfied!
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I'm not asking what they were two years ago, I am asking you to explain the benefits as you see them now. The world has moved on since then, we are on the precipice of a global trade war, and we are about to leave the trading bloc we do most business with. And don't tell me what you hate about the EU, just simply explain how we are going to better. Feel free to break it down in to the short (next 3 years), medium (3-10 years) and the long term (10+ years), and I will accept the longer the horizon the more speculative it will be. The result of the vote is not in question, the sense of it is, given what's transpired since 2 years ago.
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