11-15-2018, 10:06 AM | #68 | |
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Online polls are very open to abuse, especially when as emotive as Brexit. Also I would hazard a guess that channel 4 is not the usual channel for those that voted leave. |
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11-15-2018, 10:15 AM | #69 | |
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Are there other recent polls which show support for Leave? If there are I haven't seen them. |
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11-15-2018, 10:27 AM | #71 | |
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As it is at the moment, Brexit is the "have". Previously, before the last referendum, it was the other way round. |
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11-15-2018, 10:29 AM | #72 | |
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For example the Independent Newspaper, it usesdata from 1100 people and then has a big article about huge swing in those that would vote remain. I don't think any poll in last 8 years or so has actually given anywhere near the correct results, I know the General Election polls have proven to be bollox for a while. |
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11-15-2018, 10:30 AM | #73 | |
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11-15-2018, 11:08 AM | #75 | |
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It's like booking a one way ticket to Dignitas because you heard you are about to die a slow and painful death only to get a phone call from the doctors just as you were about to leave for the airport to say they made an error with your tests, but go through with it anyway because you don't want the hassle of ringing easy jet to cancel your flight. |
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11-15-2018, 11:21 AM | #76 | |
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A GE that results in a labour victory. Having Corbyn & Co in power will make Brexit a picnic in the park. The disaster that leaving the EU was likely to bring will be nothing in comparison to how much these people want to punish certain parts of society. Complete bunch of fuckwits. |
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11-15-2018, 11:25 AM | #77 |
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Agreeing what appears on the face of it to be a very poor deal this "early" in the process is simply not going to please anyone. People who voted remain will not be happy at kind of leaving the EU, people who voted leave are not happy with kind of leaving the EU.
I am coming more to the conclusion that there should be a second referendum, albeit it could tear the population apart: 1. Remain 2. Agree TM's Deal 3. Reject TM's Deal with a "Backstop" that no payment is made other than binding contractual commitments and it is a no deal. The downside with that is whether the government clowns can negotiate a decent deal in the hurricane forces that would be blowing in the event of a no deal. |
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11-15-2018, 11:37 AM | #78 |
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The reasons are what they are the point is its happened.
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11-15-2018, 11:40 AM | #79 |
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With all the brick bats thrown at May today, she's handled this with a lot of class.
I'm starting to warm to her and I think others are as well listening to the phone ins today. Someone also needs to explain why this is a poor deal? She's just stated everything that the withdrawal agreement gives and it's almost a full house.
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11-15-2018, 11:59 AM | #80 | |
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I'd love to see Rees-Mogg lose the Vote of No Confidence he's spearheading - he's such a pompous turd
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Awful man the unacceptable face of the Tories in my opinion, if I were May I'd be summoning the Jag and going to chequers for a slap up steak dinner and nice bottle or two of pomerol (whatever that is)
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Between him and Corbyn it's hard to say who you would hit first with a cricket bat.
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11-15-2018, 01:21 PM | #83 | |
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11-15-2018, 01:34 PM | #84 | |
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For example : How does being in a UK-EU Customs Territory but not being permitted to leave, unless both parties agree, make this an acceptable deal ? How does lack of access to crucial security databases makes this an acceptable deal ? How does an ongoing role for the ECJ after March 2019 make this an acceptable deal ? How does preventing the UK from trading with nations outside the EU, if those terms were more advantageous than the terms in place between the UK-EU, make this an acceptable deal ? People may, and do, say that this is better than No Deal. I disagree. We'd be paying the EU to lock us to the gates of Europe, with no freedom, bound by EU rules and not able to influence them. The EU has acted arrogantly throughout the entire process, to the extent that it has openly mocked Thera May. This deal is a shocker and should be kicked back to the negotiating table.
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He's a pompous c**t, plain and simple, that's why people don't like him
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Thing is we've inadvertently helped the EU, other countries that were teetering on the edge will never leave now after the fuck up we're making of it. Just wondering why people think the EU should give us a good deal. It is us acting arrogantly saying we want to be allowed to keep anything that benefits us. Why can't the EU openly mock our government and leaders, we've made ourselves a laughing stock throughout the whole process? Our own government can't agree on what we want, how are the EU supposed to react to that? |
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