[RENT-A-GOAT]

Originally Posted by RoryD

I don’t understand why the dealers don’t offer coding services. Easy money for them surely?

Cheers
Rory

Never say never this tightening up could be the start before the BMW charge monthly/yearly for anything/everything comes into force.

[g9icy]

Originally Posted by RoryD

I don’t understand why the dealers don’t offer coding services. Easy money for them surely?

Cheers
Rory

I've heard of people having some small retrofits done at the dealer, but don't know much more than that?

I'll be returning mine back to stock (at least, reverting the coding, not sure I cba putting the original mirrors back on).

I've just had my extended warranty letter asking if I want it... Given I'm still in two minds whether to keep the car I'd at a bare minimum like to remain in a position to give the car back before sept 21...or VT...

Damn them!!! I like my folding mirrors!!!

Thankfully I've not remapped it.

[Junebug85]

I've just recently purchased a 2018 G30 540i and have been looking into getting SLI fitted/coded.

Thinking, do I just wait till March 2021 when the 3 year warranty finishes.

[SW6Steve]

I haven't read through the entire post yet, so apologise if this has been covered.
Can I reset all the BimmerCode coding back to standard and be fine with extended warranty?
Or will they be able to detect coding has occurred anyway?

[chris-c]

You will be found.

[muniz_ri]

Originally Posted by SW6Steve

I haven't read through the entire post yet, so apologise if this has been covered.
Can I reset all the BimmerCode coding back to standard and be fine with extended warranty?
Or will they be able to detect coding has occurred anyway?

Aside from speculation, nobody has confirmed that yet.

[RENT-A-GOAT]

Originally Posted by muniz_ri

Aside from speculation, nobody has confirmed that yet.

Was told there's an increasing number of owners/leasers coming up against this so until someone who has removed their coding and still been informed we cannot be certain but from what the service manager said it's pretty clear they now have something in place now that can see what non dealership setups & apps/dongles cannot.

Who knows why this approach has changed is it because of an incoming approach like connected drive subscriptions to pay to have features enabled approach? Or is it following that youtube idiot with the M4 who has upset them enough to make it a priority to clamp down knowing there will be a lot out there modding/damaging their assets whilst in financial agreements signed in agreement not to make any changes?

[M33DLO]

I wonder if having a BMW approved fix/upgrade that wipes out preexisting coding would put the car back on BMWs good list?

For example, when I took mine in for its MPPSK. When I picked it up I noticed that all (actually, I only had the current speed in dash) had gone. So I assume the MPPSK software wipes all non standard codes and resets it all. ? July this year.

They never mentioned anything about coding and if the car had been flagged or not.

I guess I'll only know when the time comes to either claim on the warranty or renew it.

[damack]

Originally Posted by Medslow

I wonder if having a BMW approved fix/upgrade that wipes out preexisting coding would put the car back on BMWs good list?

For example, when I took mine in for its MPPSK. When I picked it up I noticed that all (actually, I only had the current speed in dash) had gone. So I assume the MPPSK software wipes all non standard codes and resets it all. ? July this year.

They never mentioned anything about coding and if the car had been flagged or not.

I guess I'll only know when the time comes to either claim on the warranty or renew it.

Same thing happened to me earlier this year after a service. Everything done by Bimmercode was restored to factory. Not a word said to me, nothing written on the service sheet.

[dazzapb]

Hi guys I have made some bimmercode changes on x3m such as led light colours and triviality like that.

I got a few recalls to do it seems. Should I revert back to backup original config?

I also have CarPlay full screen. I had my RIS in feb I think and it's due a service next July 2021. Not sure what to do.

Thanks


"As part of ongoing quality analysis at BMW, it has been established that you have an outstanding safety campaign that requires completion:

Program control units (DME

[t5pilot]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Hi guys I have made some bimmercode changes on x3m such as led light colours and triviality like that.

I got a few recalls to do it seems. Should I revert back to backup original config?

I also have CarPlay full screen. I had my RIS in feb I think and it's due a service next July 2021. Not sure what to do.

Thanks


"As part of ongoing quality analysis at BMW, it has been established that you have an outstanding safety campaign that requires completion:

Program control units (DME

Your CarPlay full screen is a hack, not coding.
If you have a software update done at the dealer, REMOVE YOUR FULL SCREEN FIRST!
If you don't, you're in for a world of pain & I believe it could even mean a new HU.

[M2Andy]

So going forward, any of us looking to buy an AUC but who want bimmercode tweaks should do them during an extended unaccompanied test drive and then leave it a few days before doing the deal. The coding was there when I bought the car init guv

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by t5pilot

Your CarPlay full screen is a hack, not coding.
If you have a software update done at the dealer, REMOVE YOUR FULL SCREEN FIRST!
If you don't, you're in for a world of pain & I believe it could even mean a new HU.

Thanks I did ask Kubax86 here and he thinks I should be ok as I had CarPlay from factory, it was the full screen hack (as you noted).
On the coding front prior to service I will reset to default.

I did have the run in service ok, also just a few months ago the car was on diagnostics with no fault codes found due to a head on with a hub cap! knocked out a wheel speed sensor.

Will defo make me think again the future re: coding or any changes for that matter.

[t5pilot]

It's just the full screen that's the actual hack, not the CarPlay itself.
It puts in certain fake codes, some of which are dummy FSC codes.
If BMW do a software update on it, it will almost certainly render the HU useless, as the original factory FSC's have been replaced. And once the update process is initialised, they're non-recoverable.
There are previous threads on this.
Bottom line is make sure you return to stock display prior to any chance of an official software update.

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by t5pilot

It's just the full screen that's the actual hack, not the CarPlay itself.
It puts in certain fake codes, some of which are dummy FSC codes.
If BMW do a software update on it, it will almost certainly render the HU useless, as the original factory FSC's have been replaced. And once the update process is initialised, they're non-recoverable.
There are previous threads on this.
Bottom line is make sure you return to stock display prior to any chance of an official software update.

Headunits are recoverable with the right tools but if you have the ability to restore to factory before a dealer visit then you should do so or request no software updates.

The full screen "hack" will just be wiped during a software update, other HU functions won't be affected.

[CurryPuff]

I had my car in today at the dealership to check the HU for any fault codes etc. I have folding mirrors, B&O sound, Auto start-stop coded off. I did used to have ASD off, which I returned to stock as that throws a code on the ASD ecu.
I was with the tech when he connected the car to ista to read codes and troubleshoot some stuff. Nothing flagged out on his end at all about the coding. He did mention that if your car is remapped, that flag up straight away and the vehicle black flagged with BMW with no warranty for drive train etc.
Another thing he mentioned was car play being activated 'without proper BMW channels' and the iDrive system can then get bricked, used to require replacements, but now they're recoverable, albeit it costing around £500 or so, as opposed to £2k for a replacement.

[badgerbrock72]

Interesting, which dealer was this?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by CurryPuff

I had my car in today at the dealership to check the HU for any fault codes etc. I have folding mirrors, B&O sound, Auto start-stop coded off. I did used to have ASD off, which I returned to stock as that throws a code on the ASD ecu.
I was with the tech when he connected the car to ista to read codes and troubleshoot some stuff. Nothing flagged out on his end at all about the coding. He did mention that if your car is remapped, that flag up straight away and the vehicle black flagged with BMW with no warranty for drive train etc.
Another thing he mentioned was car play being activated 'without proper BMW channels' and the iDrive system can then get bricked, used to require replacements, but now they're recoverable, albeit it costing around £500 or so, as opposed to £2k for a replacement.

The headunits are not bricked, they just have an FSC code mismatch. Again, with the right tools this can be sorted for a lot less than £500.

The BMW Tech is referring to FASTA Data - when ISTA is plugged into the car, it logs everything and in a verbose manner, meaning that it will check the software signatures and checksums against BMW's servers, if there is a mismatch then it will get flagged for tampering.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

Headunits are recoverable with the right tools but if you have the ability to restore to factory before a dealer visit then you should do so or request no software updates.

The full screen "hack" will just be wiped during a software update, other HU functions won't be affected.

Hi wibbles you see very knowledgeable here I am about to book in DME recall update tomorrow on x3m with idrive6 . I intend to revert minor coding changes.
They may do an update to the software not sure in that case should I try and revert car play full screen hack? Cheers

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Hi wibbles you see very knowledgeable here I am about to book in DME recall update tomorrow on x3m with idrive6 . I intend to revert minor coding changes.
They may do an update to the software not sure in that case should I try and revert car play full screen hack? Cheers

Depending on which full screen hack was installed, you can just code Carplay_fullscreen = Nicht Aktiv.

They should not pick the change up when they flash the car if you have Carplay from factory/via connected drive store - if it was from a 3rd party then they will pick it up if you don't revert.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

Depending on which full screen hack was installed, you can just code Carplay_fullscreen = Nicht Aktiv.

They should not pick the change up when they flash the car if you have Carplay from factory/via connected drive store - if it was from a 3rd party then they will pick it up if you don't revert.

Thanks I had to run a bmw app on windows IIRC using enet cable. And enter a 10 Digit Code. Not sure if that's changes things.

[Sullym6]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Thanks I had to run a bmw app on windows IIRC using enet cable. And enter a 10 Digit Code. Not sure if that's changes things.

That is carplay via 3rd party, if you run the app again it will revert to how it was before.
It is very important you do this as you will be using patched fsc codes