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      01-19-2023, 09:20 AM   #1
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It appears to be very similar to the OEM manifold design, and the CTS design. Why can't these guys just make a dope manifold with a T4 flange on it instead of these tiny half moon twin inlet ports
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It appears to be very similar to the OEM manifold design, and the CTS design. Why can't these guys just make a dope manifold with a T4 flange on it instead of these tiny half moon twin inlet ports
Pure’s entire brand is upgraded OEM turbos, this is what they do
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Pure’s entire brand is upgraded OEM turbos, this is what they do
The PS2 is already bottlenecked by this style manifold. Adding a bigger turbo on a similar manifold is not what we need.

We need an affordable setup with a tubular manifold with equal length runners.
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It appears to be very similar to the OEM manifold design, and the CTS design. Why can't these guys just make a dope manifold with a T4 flange on it instead of these tiny half moon twin inlet ports
I sometimes wonder why other fabricators/companies havent went this route and just produced a manifold, but i think its because of the fitment/install complexity if you do so. You would probably end up needed custom lines for everything, turbo fitment might be difficult in the OEM space, DP and inlet wouldnt fit, etc. The drop-in options are probably much easier to sell, even if they retain OEM bottlenecks
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I sometimes wonder why other fabricators/companies havent went this route and just produced a manifold, but i think its because of the fitment/install complexity if you do so. You would probably end up needed custom lines for everything, turbo fitment might be difficult in the OEM space, DP and inlet wouldnt fit, etc. The drop-in options are probably much easier to sell, even if they retain OEM bottlenecks
Whats the other kit...Steelstreet? That kit is fire. Yea a little more complex to install but if gives you so much more power than these turbofold designs. The last post from that other kit was over 700whp.
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The PS2 is already bottlenecked by this style manifold. Adding a bigger turbo on a similar manifold is not what we need.

We need an affordable setup with a tubular manifold with equal length runners.
I’m not arguing that it’s not a poor design, I’m just commenting on Pure and why they made this style kit.
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We need someone to buy and test this on pump gas.

The last GEN1 Pure stage 2 I had on my PWG N55 made

330AWHP/300AWTQ stock tune (PS2 installed)
400AWHP/435AWTQ on pump 91 BM3 BETA OTS map.
420AWHP/438AWTQ on pump 93 BM3 BETA OTS map.

that was when OTS never released and every map was done by hand.

Obviously 4-5 years to this date, it could make +10 to +30whp on either or map.

But I'm curious to see what it could do on a healthy EWG/PWG N55 with stock fuel system on their stage 2H maps.
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We need someone to buy and test this on pump gas.

The last GEN1 Pure stage 2 I had on my PWG N55 made

400AWHP/435AWTQ on pump 91 BM3 BETA OTS map.
420AWHP/438AWTQ on pump 93 BM3 BETA OTS map.

that was when OTS never released and every map was done by hand.

Obviously 4-5 years to this date, it could make +10 to +30whp on either or map.

But I'm curious to see what it could do on a healthy EWG/PWG N55 with stock fuel system on their stage 2H maps.
This needs to be tested on the 2+ maps. The 2h is outdated and was replaced by the 2+.
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This needs to be tested on the 2+ maps. The 2h is outdated and was replaced by the 2+.
I believe 2+ is meant for stock turbo, upgraded HPFP.

2H is used to hybrid turbo only.
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I believe 2+ is meant for stock turbo, upgraded HPFP.

2H is used to hybrid turbo only.
This post from Protuning freaks states that its for upgraded turbo also.

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We need someone to buy and test this on pump gas.

The last GEN1 Pure stage 2 I had on my PWG N55 made

400AWHP/435AWTQ on pump 91 BM3 BETA OTS map.
420AWHP/438AWTQ on pump 93 BM3 BETA OTS map.

that was when OTS never released and every map was done by hand.

Obviously 4-5 years to this date, it could make +10 to +30whp on either or map.

But I'm curious to see what it could do on a healthy EWG/PWG N55 with stock fuel system on their stage 2H maps.
I'm happy to offer a substantial discount for anyone willing to test this kit and compare it to their baseline runs.

If anyone is interested, they will need to pay the total price upfront, and I will send them the refund once the results are posted on the forums.
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This post from Protuning freaks states that its for upgraded turbo also.

They never made it for the PWG, not enough people for testing lol
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It won't make any additional power on a stage 2h map really.. You're octane limited no boost limited at that point.

You could make more with custom tuning though for a specific car etc but not so much with ots
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I believe 2+ is meant for stock turbo, upgraded HPFP.

2H is used to hybrid turbo only.
2+ is for stock or upgraded turbo. Yeah, its kindof strange, because they said 2H was for hybrid turbo only back when it was first released, but the 2+ is even more aggressive/higher boost and is for both stock and hybrid lol. A long time ago people were running 2H on stock turbo as well, but its only like 0.5-1 psi higher than stage 2, and 2+ is even higher than that now.
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2+ is for stock or upgraded turbo. Yeah, its kindof strange, because they said 2H was for hybrid turbo only back when it was first released, but the 2+ is even more aggressive/higher boost and is for both stock and hybrid lol. A long time ago people were running 2H on stock turbo as well, but its only like 0.5-1 psi higher than stage 2, and 2+ is even higher than that now.
It's because people are thinking about it incorrectly.

That's the max map used for any turbo on pump gas with "stock" hpfp.. thats the limitation..

The 2+ takes it a step further with the addition of the aftermarket hpfp and the ability to step up the setups with e30 and potentially e50 etc..

The 2h should have been 2.5 and the 2+ should have been stage 3 etc etc
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Somebody take Mike’s offer on the Pure 500.

I got a deal on my slightly used TTE460 that makes 480whp to redline on the Stg 2+ Multimap and E50.

That Pure 500 should get close at a much lower price than a new TTE460.
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Somebody take Mike’s offer on the Pure 500.

I got a deal on my slightly used TTE460 that makes 480whp to redline on the Stg 2+ Multimap and E50.

That Pure 500 should get close at a much lower price than a new TTE460.
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I'm happy to offer a substantial discount for anyone willing to test this kit and compare it to their baseline runs.

If anyone is interested, they will need to pay the total price upfront, and I will send them the refund once the results are posted on the forums.
I might be up for this if you are to do it for a 535xi instead of 335i. 🤓
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I might be up for this if you are to do it for a 535xi instead of 335i. 🤓
I don't want to speak for Mike, But Its the same engine, same part. So I dont see why it would be a problem.
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I don't want to speak for Mike, But Its the same engine, same part. So I dont see why it would be a problem.
Itll skew the numbers though since the intake setup for the f10 is garbage and robs a ton of hp
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Itll skew the numbers though since the intake setup for the f10 is garbage and robs a ton of hp
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How much HP am I losing because of my intake??
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