Urgent: M Sport/Performance Brakes Question

bamsefar · 04-04-2013, 10:45 AM

Well it is stil not clear for me, however you all write...

The M Sport brakes, 2NH, needs larger wheels here in Sweden. So something has changed, and I guess it is the brakedisk to 370mm - which is the only thing that can create the need for a larger wheel.

So, as far as I figured this out:

335i M Sport Brakes in EU, order number 2NH, gives BLUE 4 pistons front + 2 pistons back, plus larger brake disks (370 mm front).

Standard 335i brakes - well here there is no clear answeer, except the brakedisc is smaler, in EU anyway. If it is 2-piston front or 4-piston front, I have no idea. I would guess it is not a 4-piston.

335i with M-package "line" - well I would assume it is the same brakes as in a standard 335i.

Adding the performance brakes, as in the multicolor version (like gold, red and maybe some other color), will add a slotted brake disc to 4-piston calipers, most likly 370mm.

Then there is that last question: Will the BMW M-series M3 F30 - when ever it is relesed - have brakediscs like for example M3 E92 with drilled holes - and if so which size ? and will they fit the M Sport Calipers ? hmmm...

bamsefar · 04-06-2013, 02:44 AM

Found another thread that shows the 335i standard brakes:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790971

It clearly shows that the original 335i brakes uses 4 piston brembo in front, and single piston rear.

Seagull · 04-06-2013, 08:49 AM

Wow how many times does this have to be discussed...

From the BWM Canada Inc. 2013 Product Planning Bulletin:(New) M Sport Brakes - from August 2012 Production
BMW Canada is pleased to announce the addition of the optional M Sport Brakes (2NH), available exclusively with the M Sport Package on the 335i Sedan models. This performance kit offeres oversize brakes (front and rear) for increased performance as well as brake callipers painted in blue with M badge, adding to te sporty design elements of the M Sport Package.

Retail Price: $350

Front:

4-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl
Brake callipers painted (blue), with M badge

Rear

2-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl
Brake callipers painted (blue), with M badge

Also see here for caliper sizes:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795074

As some people have already noted in the many other threads, the cost is the replacement cost of the standard 335i brakes, which is not the same a buying a new set ( i.e. getting 2 sets of brakes with your car ).

shivaswrath · 04-06-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitoco

Fail.

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Originally Posted by Vitoco

You see any difference besides the color on these pics?

http://www.motorvision.de/images/5/1...remsanlage.jpg

http://www.google.se/imgres?q=m+perf...r:15,s:0,i:123

I have them, I should know.

Indeed it took me getting the M Performance brakes, installing my summer tires, and sitting with the old brakes, to sort this out...

ALL US 335i's have 4 pistons up front.
2 pistons for M sport and Sliding setup for rear.

The US M Performance is a step up from the regular 335i setup because:
1. Pad's are wider/larger.
2. Brake swept area is wider/larger.
3. Rotors up front and out back are larger.

I sincerely apologize for any confusion and misinformation I may have caused, it's REALLY bad how you have to literally take everything apart yourself and look at it to verify.

ADMIN, please update the sticky on this for everyone.

Vitoco · 04-08-2013, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Indeed it took me getting the M Performance brakes, installing my summer tires, and sitting with the old brakes, to sort this out...

ALL US 335i's have 4 pistons up front.
2 pistons in the rear.

The US M Performance is a step up from the regular 335i setup because:
1. Pad's are wider/larger.
2. Brake swept area is wider/larger.
3. Rotors up front and out back are larger.

I sincerely apologize for any confusion and misinformation I may have caused, it's REALLY bad how you have to literally take everything apart yourself and look at it to verify.

ADMIN, please update the sticky on this for everyone.

Philippe STAS Belgique · 04-10-2013, 11:37 AM

Au sujet du kit de freins M performance, ( Gros freins ) disques 370x30 avant et 345x24 option superbe mais quand meme assez couteuse !!! + démontage et remontage + plaquettes.... demande des jantes min 19"ou 20". donc pneus neige monté sur jantes 19"!!!
Renseignements prix chez l'importateur EN BELGIQUE cette option est pas possible et NON homologuée ou a acheter dans un pays voisin mais attention au problème en cas d'accidents et problèmes avec l'assurance. That is the question.

mikew2069 · 04-10-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Philippe STAS Belgique

Au sujet du kit de freins M performance, ( Gros freins ) disques 370x30 avant et 345x24 option superbe mais quand meme assez couteuse !!! + démontage et remontage + plaquettes.... demande des jantes min 19"ou 20". donc pneus neige monté sur jantes 19"!!!
Renseignements prix chez l'importateur EN BELGIQUE cette option est pas possible et NON homologuée ou a acheter dans un pays voisin mais attention au problème en cas d'accidents et problèmes avec l'assurance. That is the question.

04-04-2013, 10:45 AM	#23
bamsefar Let's Rock ! 5 Rep 62 Posts Drives: BMW 335i xDrive (F30) 2013 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Well it is stil not clear for me, however you all write... The M Sport brakes, 2NH, needs larger wheels here in Sweden. So something has changed, and I guess it is the brakedisk to 370mm - which is the only thing that can create the need for a larger wheel. So, as far as I figured this out: 335i M Sport Brakes in EU, order number 2NH, gives BLUE 4 pistons front + 2 pistons back, plus larger brake disks (370 mm front). Standard 335i brakes - well here there is no clear answeer, except the brakedisc is smaler, in EU anyway. If it is 2-piston front or 4-piston front, I have no idea. I would guess it is not a 4-piston. 335i with M-package "line" - well I would assume it is the same brakes as in a standard 335i. Adding the performance brakes, as in the multicolor version (like gold, red and maybe some other color), will add a slotted brake disc to 4-piston calipers, most likly 370mm. Then there is that last question: Will the BMW M-series M3 F30 - when ever it is relesed - have brakediscs like for example M3 E92 with drilled holes - and if so which size ? and will they fit the M Sport Calipers ? hmmm...
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04-06-2013, 02:44 AM	#24
bamsefar Let's Rock ! 5 Rep 62 Posts Drives: BMW 335i xDrive (F30) 2013 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Found another thread that shows the 335i standard brakes: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790971 It clearly shows that the original 335i brakes uses 4 piston brembo in front, and single piston rear.
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04-06-2013, 08:49 AM	#25
Seagull Major 289 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: F87 M2, E84 X1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Wow how many times does this have to be discussed... From the BWM Canada Inc. 2013 Product Planning Bulletin:(New) M Sport Brakes - from August 2012 Production BMW Canada is pleased to announce the addition of the optional M Sport Brakes (2NH), available exclusively with the M Sport Package on the 335i Sedan models. This performance kit offeres oversize brakes (front and rear) for increased performance as well as brake callipers painted in blue with M badge, adding to te sporty design elements of the M Sport Package. Retail Price: $350 Front: 4-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl Brake callipers painted (blue), with M badge Rear 2-Piston aluminum fixed-caliper brake 18", lightweight brake discs with interior ventilation and aluminum brake bowl Brake callipers painted (blue), with M badge Also see here for caliper sizes: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795074 As some people have already noted in the many other threads, the cost is the replacement cost of the standard 335i brakes, which is not the same a buying a new set ( i.e. getting 2 sets of brakes with your car ). __________________ Current: F87 M2 MT MPE, E84 PP SP LP Previous: F30 - 335i AT, E90 - 335xi MT, E90 - 330i MT, E46 - 330i MT
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04-10-2013, 11:37 AM	#28
Philippe STAS Belgique Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW Serie 3 320d F30 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: BELGIQUE iTrader: (0)	Au sujet du kit de freins M performance, ( Gros freins ) disques 370x30 avant et 345x24 option superbe mais quand meme assez couteuse !!! + démontage et remontage + plaquettes.... demande des jantes min 19"ou 20". donc pneus neige monté sur jantes 19"!!! Renseignements prix chez l'importateur EN BELGIQUE cette option est pas possible et NON homologuée ou a acheter dans un pays voisin mais attention au problème en cas d'accidents et problèmes avec l'assurance. That is the question.
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