[BC87]

Originally Posted by Cl0ud7

in before everyone says "this is what the 3series should of looked like" ....(6er gran coupe all over again)

Isn't that a bit of a different scenario since the 3 started off as a sedan? 6 started as a coupe, therefore it wouldn't have looked like a gran coupe from the beginning.

[hellrotm]

How long before the M4 GC is announced?

[Jason]

Originally Posted by hankolerd

So it says they will come standard with the 8-speed auto, but I don't see anywhere that it explicitly states there will be no manual, and one of the pictures shows a manual, what is the word on this? It looks nice, but this would be a deal breaker.

The photo sets are global (not market specific) so a manual transmission being shown doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to the U.S.

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Jason, can you please confirm availability of manual transmission options for the US market on the 4GC, for both the 428i and 435i RWD and xDrive?

I am assuming the transmission offerings for the US market will be similar to the 4 series coupe, correct? Thanks.

PS: I'm holding my breath until you provide us with an update. GULP.

Whether a manual transmission is announced later for the U.S. remains to be seen, but this U.S. specific press release only mentions an automatic transmission. I have no further info.

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

If you like coupe line but need 4 doors. That's basically the only difference.

Bingo!

And exactly why this (not the coupe) is now on my radar for next car in the garage...

[Benstuck]

I thought it was a 3 series M-sport at first glance, like it's hard to differentiate the 2 unless you have them side by side.

[Benstuck]

Originally Posted by Cl0ud7

in before everyone says "this is what the 3series should of looked like" ....(6er gran coupe all over again)

I never thought of that, but I agree, this is what the 3 should've looked like.

[bimmer_335]

I like what I see!!! This will take quite a few 3 series sales

[marcva]

Wonder what the used market for this and the f30 3 is going to look like in 36 months. I'd think something will take a relative hit.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by Jason

The photo sets are global (not market specific) so a manual transmission being shown doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to the U.S.


Whether a manual transmission is announced later for the U.S. remains to be seen, but this U.S. specific press release only mentions an automatic transmission. I have no further info.

Thanks Jason. Would this info possibly be released on Tuesday, with the official unveiling?

[Danman5666]

Originally Posted by marcva

Wonder what the used market for this and the f30 3 is going to look like in 36 months. I'd think something will take a relative hit.

Not sure about that. This has a higher base price tag than the F30 while the average consumer is not going to really know the difference between this and a 3-series.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

How long before the M4 GC is announced?

Who knows. I'm guessing it depends on how many f36 they sell. I am guessing it will be pretty low at first, since almost no one knows about it, and most non-enthusiast consumers who see it might just opt for the more practical and less expensive 3 sedan or the more roomy and spacious 3 GT. This is a niche car for sure.

[05Mdriver]

I will buy an M4 GC..

[RoboM]

A direct and visual comparison to F30 is urgently needed.

[ns2000x]

No manual seems an incredible oversight. But given how few posts on this thread about that (ie nothing until page 3) perhaps numbers don't lie.

If anything (in the F8x range) were to tempt me out of my E90M it would be an F86 Grand Coupe with either a DCT or 6MT.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by RoboM

A direct and visual comparison to F30 is urgently needed.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=941922

[OverDriven]

This is the reason the 4 coupe is so oddly long, and I have to say it looks MUCH better as a 4 door car. It's just a shame they had to sacrifice the look of the coupe just so they could create ANOTHER sedan more easily (or I should say more cost effectively).

[jmcphillips1]

You guys acting like this is no different than a 3 are cracking me up. This looks nothing like a 3. Yes it has 4 doors, but it doesn't look like a 3 at all.

[OverDriven]

Originally Posted by jmcphillips1

You guys acting like this is no different than a 3 are cracking me up. This looks nothing like a 3. Yes it has 4 doors, but it doesn't look like a 3 at all.

Agreed.

[Oliver1]

Originally Posted by ns2000x

No manual seems an incredible oversight. But given how few posts on this thread about that (ie nothing until page 3) perhaps numbers don't lie.

If anything (in the F8x range) were to tempt me out of my E90M it would be an F86 Grand Coupe with either a DCT or 6MT.

F86 is the X5M.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

F86 is the X5M.

X6M.

[inChargeOfIT]

Still lowers the perception of value for a well optioned 3 series and I can easily see the "Why wouldn't you just get a 4 for that price?" comments when adding all the bells and whistles to a 3.

One of the reasons I purchased the F30 (as apposed to Audi) was because it was a new model line and the S4's were getting a little dated. I figured the resale value on my well optioned 335i would remain higher after a few years because it would still look current when I went to sell it, but this is when I thought the new 3 series meant 4 doors and the new 4 series meant two doors. It's a branding thing.

So, again, why not spend just a little bit more and get the 4 series? Objectively.. it looks lower, meaner, sleeker, and there will be the perception that it is just a little bit better than the 3. Especially with reviews like these:

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/01/2...ficial-photos/

[ns2000x]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

F86 is the X5M.

Thanks.
I don't like the switch in numbering convention to all "F's". With F80 being an F30 M3, wonder what a M4GC might be...?