[disintegrator66]

A little pricey, but if you already have Esco stands this is an option. Reverse Logic also has rectangular blocks that mate to Torin stands.

https://reverselogic.us/jack-stands/...ands-p35397927

[chowser51]

Originally Posted by disintegrator66

A little pricey, but if you already have Esco stands this is an option. Reverse Logic also has rectangular blocks that mate to Torin stands.

https://reverselogic.us/jack-stands/...ands-p35397927

That's neat! I have a pair of ESCOs.

[WDE82]

Originally Posted by sspade

Looking for the best combo of safety and value when it comes to getting my F30 off the ground to work under.

Already have a floor jack for the lifting part of the equation. And ramps for jobs where I dont need to remove the wheels.

The obvious answer is buying a set of Esco 10499 but at $60 a pop, thats quite an investment.

Was wondering what other solutions are out there for less than $60 per corner?

Of course... working with the plastic rectangle BMW lifting points is the most important part of my decision.

To get the Esco set it would be $255 all in. Seems like a lot.

It's not a lot. They're holding the car over you. They also will last for decades. They're cheap as fuck TBH. I have 4 of the short version and they're fucking awesome for BMWs.

Originally Posted by Logicoeur

That's not how physics works though.

With any post jack if one fails or is moved out of the support position the weight will no longer be supported on that corner. The car will tip in that direction no matter the load rating of the other posts. Your grasping for straws here.

The extra strength margin is very welcome considering they separate you from getting crushed to death. I can't believe you guys are sweating $100 and acting like double the strength is not significant.

Downside of the Torins is they have a flat bottom and it's not that wide. The escos are a three point design (optimal since 3 points make a plane) and wider.

[Logicoeur]

Originally Posted by WDE82

It's not a lot. They're holding the car over you. They also will last for decades. They're cheap as fuck TBH. I have 4 of the short version and they're fucking awesome for BMWs.

The extra strength margin is very welcome considering they separate you from getting crushed to death. I can't believe you guys are sweating $100 and acting like double the strength is not significant.

Downside of the Torins is they have a flat bottom and it's not that wide. The escos are a three point design (optimal since 3 points make a plane) and wider.

No one is arguing $100 for double the weight capacity. Buy why spend another $100 when 3x the necessary capacity is more than enough. The torins being 6x our curb weight doesn't mean they last twice as long. And the weight of the car doesn't fluctuate with enough magnitude for that delta to matter. Buying pricier doesn't always mean better nor that something cheaper is worse.

[Orion4]

Originally Posted by chowser51

Who makes the jackstands you can lift with a jack then add the legs?

I think you are referring to Rennstand: https://safejacks.com/products/the-r...ck-single-unit Pricey, but I love the design. Max height is 16.6". They are supposedly making a set that will extend higher.

[Salty B.]

Originally Posted by 435gc

Also these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jack-stand-...wAAOSwT~dgIBrN

Anyone have these? Looks like they will fit over the saddle or whatever it's called on the basic-ass Big Red jack stands I already have. Never tried to lift my F30 yet as it's just out of warranty (I use the stands on my old Volvo which has a stick axle rear and plenty of places to put them) and I want to install a new FMIC and CP.

[M Smurf]

Originally Posted by Flying Badger

Anyone have these? Looks like they will fit over the saddle or whatever it's called on the basic-ass Big Red jack stands I already have. Never tried to lift my F30 yet as it's just out of warranty (I use the stands on my old Volvo which has a stick axle rear and plenty of places to put them) and I want to install a new FMIC and CP.

I have them. They're great. Use on Duralast stands

[WDE82]

Originally Posted by Logicoeur

No one is arguing $100 for double the weight capacity. Buy why spend another $100 when 3x the necessary capacity is more than enough. The torins being 6x our curb weight doesn't mean they last twice as long. And the weight of the car doesn't fluctuate with enough magnitude for that delta to matter. Buying pricier doesn't always mean better nor that something cheaper is worse.

It's not about life. It's about having tons of extra margin on manufacturing defects.

[Salty B.]

Originally Posted by M Smurf

I have them. They're great. Use on Duralast stands

Cool thx. Just ordered a set.

[Logicoeur]

Originally Posted by WDE82

It's not about life. It's about having tons of extra margin on manufacturing defects.

The car, once on stands does not grow or decrease in mass. From owner to owner the cars do not change in mass near the magnitudes that 3x or 6x curb weight matters.

[WDE82]

Originally Posted by Logicoeur

The car, once on stands does not grow or decrease in mass. From owner to owner the cars do not change in mass near the magnitudes that 3x or 6x curb weight matters.

I didn't say anything that implied that. I was obviously taking about jack stand manufacturing defects. Most have pretty shit weld quality with bad penetration.

[Billfitz]

I have four of these. The tops aren't flat, but they're not as curved as most, so they don't damage my hockey pucks. They're also higher than most, so you can lift the car high enough to comfortably work under it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[dmaxdmax]

OP...for ramps, I use (2) 2x10s stacked on top of one another...and staggered...edges cut at 45 degrees

They work fine for driving up on the front, but if I need car level, I'll jack up side and place them under the tires, then lower. I'm small enough to get under and do oil at least (in an xDrive stock height).

[AspektUSA]

Originally Posted by WDE82

I didn't say anything that implied that. I was obviously taking about jack stand manufacturing defects. Most have pretty shit weld quality with bad penetration.

He doesn't understand that the HF jackstands were recalled because they were made with worn out tooling and piss poor QC.

You get what you pay for.