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      12-12-2018, 06:39 AM   #23
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Also the 320d seems to have a twin turbo setup now. A few reviews have mentioned this.
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Also the 320d seems to have a twin turbo setup now. A few reviews have mentioned this.
They're probably getting confused with the "twinpower turbo" terminology.
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They're probably getting confused with the "twinpower turbo" terminology.
Yeah i thought the same as this has always confused people. But this time there are many articles all claiming multi stage turbo.
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Yeah i thought the same as this has always confused people. But this time there are many articles all claiming multi stage turbo.
Well it has 190bhp, exactly the same as the 520d so I think it’s definitely single turbo.
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Well it has 190bhp, exactly the same as the 520d so I think it’s definitely single turbo.
Does not matter as much as that is peak power. The driveability and curves are most likely improved. The tech spec confirms its twin turbo.

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Does not matter as much as that is peak power. The driveability and curves are most likely improved. The tech spec confirms its twin turbo.

That says “turbocharger” singular, twin turbo says this for the 40d engine (high and low pressure turbocharger):

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Also says multi stage turbo charging which is same as what is says on the 35d and 40d models.

What we dont know if it has a low and high pressure turbo setup. Could well just have 2 variable vane turbo's.
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Looks better in the videos and a step up inside, although I now don't like the door handles or the fact the rear ones are higher than the front odd.

M340i performance is great and you simply don't need anymore than 0-100mph in 10 seconds, the new M3 will be down to 7.5 with AWD if they fit it.
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Looks better in the videos and a step up inside, although I now don't like the door handles or the fact the rear ones are higher than the front odd.

M340i performance is great and you simply don't need anymore than 0-100mph in 10 seconds, the new M3 will be down to 7.5 with AWD if they fit it.
Jus got in from work and started watching it. I literally fell asleep a minute in and woke up to him flicking the dash, did I miss much?
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Jus got in from work and started watching it. I literally fell asleep a minute in and woke up to him flicking the dash, did I miss much?
It's a decent review, I don't understand the new dampers though
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Jus got in from work and started watching it. I literally fell asleep a minute in and woke up to him flicking the dash, did I miss much?
It's a decent review, I don't understand the new dampers though
Basically dual rate, so under heavy load it will reduce body roll or chance of hitting bump stops, apparently:
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Basically dual rate, so under heavy load it will reduce body roll or chance of hitting bump stops, apparently:
If that's the extent of their technical drawing capabilities then no wonder the damping has always been rubbish.
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Also says multi stage turbo charging which is same as what is says on the 35d and 40d models.

What we dont know if it has a low and high pressure turbo setup. Could well just have 2 variable vane turbo's.
Two variable vane turbos to produce 190hp (the same as the old F30) would be very strange and poor from a specific output POV, their terminology is very misleading and I think on purpose, I've heard dealer staff refer to all BMWs as having twin turbos before to potential customers I had to bite my lip as I really wanted to "be that guy"
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Also says multi stage turbo charging which is same as what is says on the 35d and 40d models.

What we dont know if it has a low and high pressure turbo setup. Could well just have 2 variable vane turbo's.
Two variable vane turbos to produce 190hp (the same as the old F30) would be very strange and poor from a specific out put POV, their terminology is very misleading and I think on purpose, I've heard dealer staff refer to all BMWs as having twin turbos before.
Agreed, I would be extremely surprised if there are two turbo chargers in it.
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Basically dual rate, so under heavy load it will reduce body roll or chance of hitting bump stops, apparently:
If that's the extent of their technical drawing capabilities then no wonder the damping has always been rubbish.
You can read the whole thing here, if you want to be bored to tears!!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/jalop...1830257906/amp
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You can read the whole thing here, if you want to be bored to tears!!
Wait until users try and lower their cars, without changing dampers. Then there will be some serious discussion.

The concept is not new, but the way BMW implement it is tuned in a way that ride height is a critical part of the resulting damping curve characteristic, front and rear.

Will be very strange if a car is lowered and rear compression damping is now running harder and front rebound is softer due to the OE design parameters!

I read that the ride is not perfect on small imperfections. I'm guessing the higher spring rate isn't helping, even if handling is sharpened.
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Wait until users try and lower their cars, without changing dampers. Then there will be some serious discussion.

The concept is not new, but the way BMW implement it is tuned in a way that ride height is a critical part of the resulting damping curve characteristic, front and rear.

Will be very strange if a car is lowered and rear compression damping is now running harder and front rebound is softer due to the OE design parameters!

I read that the ride is not perfect on small imperfections. I'm guessing the higher spring rate isn't helping, even if handling is sharpened.
Oh good point!

That's either going to be good or bad for Lorcan , either people will buy less lowering springs, or they'll buy more dampers!
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Two variable vane turbos to produce 190hp (the same as the old F30) would be very strange and poor from a specific output POV, their terminology is very misleading and I think on purpose, I've heard dealer staff refer to all BMWs as having twin turbos before to potential customers I had to bite my lip as I really wanted to "be that guy"
New 320d engine does have two turbos. Remember part of how a turbo (or turbos) is/are implemented is to reduce fuel consumption and control emissions, not simply for more power.

From BMW's G20 Press Release.


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BMW 320d and BMW 318d: two-stage turbocharging, higher injection pressure.
Systematic upgrades have also been made to the BMW TwinPower Turbo technology for the two-litre, four-cylinder diesel engines in the BMW 318d BMW 320d and BMW 320d xDrive models. It now includes multi-stage turbocharging, which brings increased efficiency across all engine speeds. The small high-pressure turbocharger and the variable turbine geometry of the large low-pressure turbo give the system swift responses, enabling higher torque when driving flat out. Under partial loads, the multi-stage turbocharging enables significantly lower fuel consumption. And the solenoid-valve injectors of the common-rail direct injection system now deliver the fuel to the combustion chambers at a pressure of up to 2,500 bar (BMW 318d: up to 2,200 bar).
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