[B58togo]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

How in the hell? BMW charged me 3.5 hours labor to install my M Performance LSD. That requires disconnecting two half shafts, the driveshaft, and a few suspension prices. 3.5 hours labor was $550 with tax. That was BMW book time. There's no doubt in my mind the tech did it all in less than 2 hours.

5 hours to remove one rear axle? In what freaking world? That can't be book time. If I had a lift and the BMW tool to pop the axle out of the diff, I could have an axle out in less than an hour including getting the car in the air.

Exactly. Reading up on all the threads for the install of the LSD is where I came up with the 2 hrs to do one axle.

[TEST DRYVER]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

LTG puts it at 2.2 for one side. They really wanted to stick it to you. Glad you were able to get it sorted at a much more reasonable price. I, thankfully, just had my rear axle replaced under warranty and it took them less than half a day from dropoff to repair and final RO write up to me picking up the car.

It took the Head Tech at Porsche just over 3 hours on the axle alone. I was at work that day and was able to peek from time to time. Remember, he works primarily (95% of his work) on Porsche's, so I'm sure some of this was slightly foreign to him. Also, he had trouble removing the broken axle, that might of taken a good chunk of time. But as Always, his work was good and clean.
When installing the undercarriage panel, he must of left a tab off, because the following evening, after I got the car back and installed the tune, I did a high speed run on an empty freeway late at night. Let's just say at "higher speed", one of the other panels, attached to the one he switched out, fell out and started dragging along the pavement, while still attached to the car. It scared the shit out of me, as I thought I'd have to explain to my wife again, I broke her car, 48 hours after getting it back. Thankfully, it was just a few tabs that came off to drag a piece of undercarriage. The part was still intact. I stopped and pulled it off and placed it in my trunk. There was quite a bit air going through to push that piece out. I ordered a front lip and rear diffuser from Ikon today. I'll have the panel reattached when I receive the new lip and diffuser.
I'll say one thing, the car was able to get up to speed rather quickly. I was even driving in comfort mode when I saw the open straight away on the freeway. The BM3 stage 2 tune is running really strong right now!

[TEST DRYVER]

Originally Posted by 1N54E92

VMR710 with spacers ? looks nice

Yes! VMR 710's 19×8.5 in the front and 19×9.5 in the back. They messed up the offset when ordering the wheels, hence why they stick out so far, but the new rears with the proper offset is in, and should be installed on Wednesday. No spacers btw... You shouldn't need spacers on the VMR's unless you're looking to run a crazy aggressive offset with camber plates, rolled fenders, etc...

[TEST DRYVER]

I'll post pics when the proper offset is on and the car is clean. We've had a run of bad weather here. Impossible to keep a car clean for more than 2 days.

[TEST DRYVER]

I'd like to get an exhaust next, but it can't be too loud and it can't be too expensive (considering what I've already spent on the car in the last 3 months of ownership).
Interesting sidenote: my wife had the car for the last 2 days, driving all around town, and she asked me whay the car feels so light. She mentioned that when driving on the freeway, she was constantly speeding when reading the speedometer, but didn't feel like she was speeding. that's the power of modifications... Of course I didn't say that!

[harkes]

Originally Posted by Bimmertodd88

I'm guessing you probably didn't flash back to stock and lock dme?

Doesn't matter. They can still see the DME has been tuned if they want to.

[aerostar]

I don't get it.

You modded your car (with more power) and ended up breaking a part on the car that absorbs a lot of the energy from said power. You want BMW to cover it under warranty?

Why should they cover it under warranty when you played the mod game. You obviously knew it might be a problem so you "flashed back to stock" when you handed the car in so why are you upset that they found out?

[zinner]

Originally Posted by B58togo

Exactly. Reading up on all the threads for the install of the LSD is where I came up with the 2 hrs to do one axle.

I think getting the axel out of the bearing carrier is the part that takes the extra effort. That isn't part of the procedure for a diff swap. I would recommend getting a shop manual if you want to know what it takes to work on the car. Even if you don't work on your own car it's educational and helps you understand why labor rates are so X for Y job.

[3FortyI]

Originally Posted by aerostar

I don't get it.

You modded your car (with more power) and ended up breaking a part on the car that absorbs a lot of the energy from said power. You want BMW to cover it under warranty?

Why should they cover it under warranty when you played the mod game. You obviously knew it might be a problem so you "flashed back to stock" when you handed the car in so why are you upset that they found out?

I think he's just informing us more so than being upset about it. He's just sharing his story what happened and could happen to others.

[zinner]

^^^ Some people can't help but read in all this context that doesn't exist on the internet.

[aps]

Originally Posted by aerostar

I don't get it.

You modded your car (with more power) and ended up breaking a part on the car that absorbs a lot of the energy from said power. You want BMW to cover it under warranty?

Why should they cover it under warranty when you played the mod game. You obviously knew it might be a problem so you "flashed back to stock" when you handed the car in so why are you upset that they found out?

did you even read the thread?

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

It is ridiculous. With that said, you can get the axle from getbmwparts.com for $945. That means Brian at Sun Motors BMW will probably beat that by another 20%, so figure a still unreasonable $750 for a new axle. That's still about $300-400 more than you'd pay to buy a new axle for most any car. BMW doesn't sell remanufactured axles. That's why your replacement axles were so cheap. I typically pay $180-220 for reman axles for my old Subarus. I'd definitely try and source a used axle from LKQ like the OP did if I broke an axle outside of warranty.

Sun does not sell parts for 40% off.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Sun does not sell parts for 40% off.

You're misunderstanding. Look at what you highlighted. LOL. The OP said the axle from his dealer was close to $1,400. I said you could get the axle from getbmwparts for $950 and Sun would probably beat that $950 by another 20%.

Sun typically beats getbmwparts by 15% to 20% depending on the part. For example, getbmwparts sells the M235 MP LSD for $2,300. Brian offered it for 15% less. On other cheaper MP parts, he usually beats them by 20%.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

You're misunderstanding. Look at what you highlighted. LOL. The OP said the axle from his dealer was close to $1,400. I said you could get the axle from getbmwparts for $950 and Sun would probably beat that $950 by another 20%.

Sun typically beats getbmwparts by 15% to 20% depending on the part. For example, getbmwparts sells the M235 MP LSD for $2,300. Brian offered it for 15% less. On other cheaper MP parts, he usually beats them by 20%.

I know exactly what you stated.

Part sells MSRP for 1158.96

GETBMWPARTS sells for $950 (according to you) and Sun BMW 15%-20% off tha(according to you)....or $142.50 to $190 off that....or $807 to $760.

Sun sells it for more than that, as again, no one sells it that cheap.

Period.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by Anshu

did you even read the thread?

Obviously he didn’t....or doesn’t remember earlier posts.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I know exactly what you stated.

Part sells MSRP for 1158.96

GETBMWPARTS sells for $950 (according to you) and Sun BMW 15%-20% off tha(according to you)....or $142.50 to $190 off that....or $807 to $760.

Sun sells it for more than that, as again, no one sells it that cheap.

Period.

You must be fun to around in person. Always so angry on this forum

Did you even get on GETBMWPARTS to verify what I said? They list MSRP and then list their price which is $950. LOL. What reason would I have to lie? Go ahead and believe what you want. I buy nearly all my parts from Sun and EVERYTHING I've bought from them over the past 2.5 years has been 15-20% lower than the typical online parts vendors.

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

You must be fun to around in person. Always so angry on this forum

Did you even get on GETBMWPARTS to verify what I said? They list MSRP and then list their price which is $950. LOL. What reason would I have to lie? Go ahead and believe what you want. I buy nearly all my parts from Sun and EVERYTHING I've bought from them over the past 2.5 years has been 15-20% lower than the typical online parts vendors.

I verified with Sun BMW that your post is incorrect, not the $750 you quoted....not even the $807 to $760 range you stated at 15% to 20% off the $950 you stated.

Spin it anyway you want, bottom line, you were wrong.

But you always seem to work Sun BMW into conversation where it has no business while critical of forum sponsor’s pricing.

Hmmmm

And never have I found Sun BMW’s price to be what you claim.

[jh_f30]

I'm sorry, but I must:

Of ≠ Have

Regards,
Grammar Nazi

[TEST DRYVER]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I know exactly what you stated.

Part sells MSRP for 1158.96

GETBMWPARTS sells for $950 (according to you) and Sun BMW 15%-20% off tha(according to you)....or $142.50 to $190 off that....or $807 to $760.

Sun sells it for more than that, as again, no one sells it that cheap.

Period.

I wrote it down somewhere, but my BMW Service Advisor gave me the parts cost (dealer cost), plus a 40% markup. Which is considered a deal, at least by BMW dealer standards. I like that he shares that information with me. If I'm not mistaken, the dealer cost on the rear driver side axle alone was around $720.
Slightly stronger (aftermarket), upgraded axles are running just under $1k on ECS Tuning.

[TEST DRYVER]

Originally Posted by aerostar

I don't get it.

You modded your car (with more power) and ended up breaking a part on the car that absorbs a lot of the energy from said power. You want BMW to cover it under warranty?

Why should they cover it under warranty when you played the mod game. You obviously knew it might be a problem so you "flashed back to stock" when you handed the car in so why are you upset that they found out?

I'm sure you don't get it. This thread is for people, not robots. People have emotions. This thread isn't for you, but I appreciate you wisdom and advice...

[saintpatty]

Originally Posted by TEST DRYVER

2) They can't prove the tune broke the rear axle. Several brands (Porsche, Audi, etc...) would have to prove your aftermarket part broke the part in question for them to deny your warranty claim.

This isn't a brand thing. It's a Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act thing. The manufacturer has to be able to prove that a modification was the direct cause of failure. Increasing tq by 100 lb/ft certainly is enough for them to prove a failure in the drivetrain was a direct result of your modifications.

[saintpatty]

Also, it's highly likely that your SA tipped off the other SA to the "official" story.