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      12-13-2014, 01:04 AM   #1
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1st Dual-Motor Tesla, 0-60 3.2s

http://www.businessinsider.com/we-sp...to-say-2014-12

1. The “D” stands for “dual-motor”
The acceleration is faster, the top speed is higher, and the new car is actually more energy efficient than its predecessor

2. Acceleration: accelerated.
0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds

3. Autopilot to the extreme (but not autonomous)
Will park itself in your garage while you’re out of the car, and you can summon the car to arrive at your location with your favorite music playing and the A/C running

4. The best brakes in the business
all-new electromechanical braking system

5. All-wheel drive
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      12-13-2014, 02:55 AM   #2
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idk even know why people still talk about 0-60 anymore. Its a outdated way of thinking IMO.

I care more about the 40-140
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      12-13-2014, 08:27 AM   #3
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Yeah, but will it drive itself??.

Oh. Wait. What, it Will?

Ummmm....shit.

Anyway, impressive tech. Will be very interesting idea/when they can downsize the tech to compete in this segment.
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Ultimate street drag racer up to about 100mph.

Just not a track car and can't repeatedly put out those performance numbers before the battery starts to overheat.

If given the option, I would be tempted. Just too expensive right now and the interior is still a little raw for its price range, but the touch screen is fantastic.

The company has an Apple cult like devotion and I expect they will be long term players. They already have been a disruptive force in the auto industry.

Doesn't compare at all to the M3 and they are built for 2 different purposes.
Straight line- Tesla
Corners- M3
Track- M3
Comfort and features- either, personal preference
Valet appeal- Depends on the area and Valet
Convenience- M3, not enough charge stations yet
Cost- M3

Bottom line is I would love to have both.
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      12-16-2014, 04:00 PM   #5
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Lmao! I had an order for a 85d due in 2/15. They called me to tell me that the options and configuration would not be available and that I would need to reconfigure. Also was told the auto pilot would be released slowly through updates and not at the time of delivery.

I didn't want to take the chance of 110k on a car with an interior on par with a Taurus so I pulled my deposit, and in protest I bought an m3 and saved a boat load of cash. I'll be back once they are a little more settled in and after I see how their battery factory will effect prices and tech.
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The 85D is an extremely impressive car. I had the chance to drive a P85 and that was quick, torque is instant. For a DD, I honestly can't think of a better car than this for the money (not that it is cheap). And the autopilot feature is incredible, way before its time. It literally can drive itself (although not recommended per Tesla haha). I can't decide whether I want an i3 or a Model S 60 for my new DD really comes down to cost.
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The 85D is an extremely impressive car. I had the chance to drive a P85 and that was quick, torque is instant. For a DD, I honestly can't think of a better car than this for the money (not that it is cheap). And the autopilot feature is incredible, way before its time. It literally can drive itself (although not recommended per Tesla haha). I can't decide whether I want an i3 or a Model S 60 for my new DD really comes down to cost.
The 60 is a great deal especially with their new competitve leases through us bank.
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I can't wait for the future to arrive

The Model S is Tesla's road car, 5-Series competitor...

Can you imagine when they make a lightweight, "sports car" model?
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What is the battery life on this?
270 Miles... More than I would ever need as a daily driver. I have other cars I can use for extended road trips.

I understand that not everyone has multiple cars to choose from for different duties, but then again they probably aren't the target market that Tesla are going for with a $110,000 - 120,000 car.
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270 Miles... More than I would ever need as a daily driver. I have other cars I can use for extended road trips.

I understand that not everyone has multiple cars to choose from for different duties, but then again they probably aren't the target market that Tesla are going for with a $110,000 - 120,000 car.
$110,000 for a car with a 270 mile range and takes hours to recharge...

I like that companies like Tesla are trying to innovate, but I think companies like BMW and Chevy have a much better approach to the electric car:
Hybrid cars with gasoline and electric motors.

These cars are still saving the environment from a lot of CO2 emissions but with a lot more practicality in terms of driving range, cost, and refueling times.
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$110,000 for a car with a 270 mile range and takes hours to recharge...

I like that companies like Tesla are trying to innovate, but I think companies like BMW and Chevy have a much better approach to the electric car:
Hybrid cars with gasoline and electric motors.

These cars are still saving the environment from a lot of CO2 emissions but with a lot more practicality in terms of driving range, cost, and refueling times.
Pure electric cars require a different mindset and approach to travel. People hate change.
Tesla talked about the battery swap program, i imagine once they get it streamlined nation-wide it could be faster than charging for road trips.
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Pure electric cars require a different mindset and approach to travel. People hate change.
Tesla talked about the battery swap program, i imagine once they get it streamlined nation-wide it could be faster than charging for road trips.
Tesla's electric cars require a bigger wallet, and that's with the government subsidies.

It would be interesting to see a battery-swap program implemented. But even with that in consideration, I don't think Tesla is marketing itself to the right people.

270 mile range, $110k starting price, long recharge times...owning this kind of car is more of a political or fashion statement than anything else.

The BMW i3 and Chevy Volt are much more practical in all of those areas, and as a result, much more marketable to the average driver. I think as time goes on, these dual-motor cars will see much greater success then Tesla's electric-only approach.
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The BMW i3 and Chevy Volt are much more practical in all of those areas, and as a result, much more marketable to the average driver. I think as time goes on, these dual-motor cars will see much greater success then Tesla's electric-only approach.
The Volt is much more practical. The i3 all electric is a joke with only 81 mile range. The Rex version isn't anymore impressive with 150 mile range. 2014 i3's are collecting dust on dealer lots. With the i3, you still need a second car. The Volt can be an owners only car, electric city car and then it can also be driven across the country. Depending on pricing, the second generation Volt could be a hit. I expect sales to jump, first gen Volt was already the best selling plug-in.
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Tesla's electric cars require a bigger wallet, and that's with the government subsidies.

It would be interesting to see a battery-swap program implemented. But even with that in consideration, I don't think Tesla is marketing itself to the right people.

270 mile range, $110k starting price, long recharge times...owning this kind of car is more of a political or fashion statement than anything else.

The BMW i3 and Chevy Volt are much more practical in all of those areas, and as a result, much more marketable to the average driver. I think as time goes on, these dual-motor cars will see much greater success then Tesla's electric-only approach.
Tesla Model S is expensive, but for some reason there are tons of them in this area. I see more Model S than i3, Volt, and Leaf combined! Perhaps it's due to the number of public area and companies that start to have charging system on their properties.
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I'll stick to my M3 which I can refuel anywhere in the U.S. in just a few minutes.
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Tesla Model S is expensive, but for some reason there are tons of them in this area. I see more Model S than i3, Volt, and Leaf combined! Perhaps it's due to the number of public area and companies that start to have charging system on their properties.
Well if you live in a rich neighborhood like that, you are bound to see a greater concentration of more expensive cars....
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