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      04-02-2018, 12:50 AM   #1431
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Ok. I'll go get one.
What's so funny? :
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So are you saying that MHD Tuned cars are inferior to BM3? And that they are not capable of posting good 0-60 and 1/4 mile times? I honestly don't think it's right if you have not tried the product. I have not bashed BM3 in any way. I always recommend any flash or bench tune versus piggyback. I have not tried BM3 so I'm in no place to say which is better for sure. I can only report on my experiences and I can honestly tell you I have driven fast cars before. This tune has made my 435i a totally different animal from stock and the power delivery is smooth through out the entire range and stock like.
No, I have been specifically saying, that your 1/4 mile results were inaccurate and you should not be expecting those numbers. Unless you get dragy which has been verified to be as accurate as vbox, and get results that are verified there.
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So are you saying that MHD Tuned cars are inferior to BM3? And that they are not capable of posting good 0-60 and 1/4 mile times? I honestly don't think it's right if you have not tried the product. I have not bashed BM3 in any way. I always recommend any flash or bench tune versus piggyback. I have not tried BM3 so I'm in no place to say which is better for sure. I can only report on my experiences and I can honestly tell you I have driven fast cars before. This tune has made my 435i a totally different animal from stock and the power delivery is smooth through out the entire range and stock like.
No, I have been specifically saying, that your 1/4 mile results were inaccurate and you should not be expecting those numbers. Unless you get dragy which has been verified to be as accurate as vbox, and get results that are verified there.
Ok. But you said nobody with MHD will get dragy or go to drag-strip. Why is that?
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What's so funny? :
No offense Seba77W.
Just reading through the responses to your post and found the brevity of your post amusing.
Didn't know if you were joking or serious, but after all the long winded arguing over the accuracy of times to various distances . . . it made me laugh.
I'm stage 2+ on shitty Cali 91 and happy with how quick the car performs.
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No offense Seba77W.
Just reading through the responses to your post and found the brevity of your post amusing.
Didn't know if you were joking or serious, but after all the long winded arguing over the accuracy of times to various distances . . . it made me laugh.
I'm stage 2+ on shitty Cali 91 and happy with how quick the car performs.
Peace.
Ok. Yea. Cool.
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Ok. But you said nobody with MHD will get dragy or go to drag-strip. Why is that?
Idk ask the people who has MHD, we haven't seen or heard a peep from them with any type of results except "It feels faster"

Get my drift? I just want to see results and compare.
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To anyone running OTS maps, post logs. Let's have a look!
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Check for oil leaks around oil filter housing gasket (OFHG), valve cover gasket (VCG) and oil pan gasket (also referred to as belly pan gasket). All of mine were leaking at 50k and I had them replaced under warranty. Plugs should be changed at 50k as well so do that if you haven't.

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I hear ya man. I'd rather take my $150 somewhere else, BUT, I'm hoping I can borrow one from a local enthusiast to see what I'm trapping. I'm not much of a drag guy but I think it would be cool to know. I do know I'm not going to be as quick as someone with Xdrive and auto. Good luck and looking forward to your results.

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For those who are weathering the wait, what is your primary reason for not going bm3 or an alternate option? I am also waiting, but I am new and might be following the crowd.
The price point and their number claims were the most appealing for me. Also, the N54 community gave MHD such high praise, and the E N55 guys as well. BM3, AA all seem like great options, and no longer require DME removal. I am following this thread closely, and hopefully we will get a release date soon, and some graphs from the Beta guys.
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The price point and their number claims were the most appealing for me. Also, the N54 community gave MHD such high praise, and the E N55 guys as well. BM3, AA all seem like great options, and no longer require DME removal. I am following this thread closely, and hopefully we will get a release date soon, and some graphs from the Beta guys.
Exactly why I'm waiting for official release
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So about $150 more for bm3 vs MHD.

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Exactly why I'm waiting for official release
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Dude I'm serious, you're claiming of running high 11s and 12 flat with stock turbo and pump 93. When people have PI, E85 and upgraded turbos, meth and it took all that to break into 11s.

Your trap speed does NOT match your ET. No one who traps 112-113 can run 12 flat or 11s.

You need dragy because its equivelent to running at a real drag strip. Its been tested by someone who ran dragy while in one and it recorded the exact or near numbers.

And its not all the same. I used torque pro with obd2 reader before as well and the 1/4 mile and trap was very different from accurate track results.

If you noticed, not a single one of anyone who has MHD wants to get dragy or run a timeslip at the track, or even provided any dyno results. All of us who have BM3 have results.

I will GLADLY run your car. I'll even put money on the line.

Go run a 1/4 mile at a drag strip and come back with the slip.


Again, dragy has a leaderboard with results, you would be surprised how everyone uses it.
Iíve got no experience running my 435i with MHD at the track. But I ran a 12.6 @ 110 with jb4 on map 5 and a down pipe on 91.

Also, I had a 2014 5.0 Mustang FBO with radials that ran a 12.01 at 113. Iíve got the slip somewhere!
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The price point and their number claims were the most appealing for me. Also, the N54 community gave MHD such high praise, and the E N55 guys as well. BM3, AA all seem like great options, and no longer require DME removal. I am following this thread closely, and hopefully we will get a release date soon, and some graphs from the Beta guys.


BM3 made 400whp on their 93 ots map.

4 minute unlock, 40 second flash.
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BM3 made 400whp on their 93 ots map.

4 minute unlock, 40 second flash.
I think most people are waiting for MHD due to the price point!!

How much was your BM3?
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I think most people are waiting for MHD due to the price point!!

How much was your BM3?
I believe it was 150$ more than MHD.

Unlock is free, and OTS map pack is 50$.

Much better than 20 minute unlock and 4-5 minute map changes IMO. Can you imagine if the flash or unlock fails? Haha
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I think most people are waiting for MHD due to the price point!!

How much was your BM3?

Price point is only relative to what's included...you have to look at the overall "big picture"... "apples to apples"

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I think most people are waiting for MHD due to the price point!!

How much was your BM3?
I believe it was 150$ more than MHD.

Unlock is free, and OTS map pack is 50$.

Much better than 20 minute unlock and 4-5 minute map changes IMO. Can you imagine if the flash or unlock fails? Haha
However you do need a laptop for BM3 am I right? If so MHD can unlock or flash from just a phone or tablet which is a truly on the fly map switching, that's where the longer time comes in, it's the difference in cables. Unlock does take 20 minutes you are correct in that and to be honest my first time I had to do it twice ! So yea that did suck. However every time I re flash now it never takes more than 2-2.5 minutes. And as I have stated before BM3 was only a bench unlock at the time and AA tune was not available so I jumped on MHD and I honestly have no regrets. If you don't need their logger tool the price for MHD is $250 for license and $99 for map pack so $350 all in. I don't even think you can find too many used JB4s for that price. I sold mine for $400 lol.
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I believe it was 150$ more than MHD.

Unlock is free, and OTS map pack is 50$.

Much better than 20 minute unlock and 4-5 minute map changes IMO. Can you imagine if the flash or unlock fails? Haha
I paid $450 in total for MHD, so your saying you paid $600?? Just trying to get an exact number on how much you paid. Thanks
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However you do need a laptop for BM3 am I right? If so MHD can unlock or flash from just a phone or tablet which is a truly on the fly map switching, that's where the longer time comes in, it's the difference in cables. Unlock does take 20 minutes you are correct in that and to be honest my first time I had to do it twice ! So yea that did suck. However every time I re flash now it never takes more than 2-2.5 minutes. And as I have stated before BM3 was only a bench unlock at the time and AA tune was not available so I jumped on MHD and I honestly have no regrets. If you don't need their logger tool the price for MHD is $250 for license and $99 for map pack so $350 all in. I don't even think you can find too many used JB4s for that price. I sold mine for $400 lol.
Nope, they sell a obd agent or you can make your own, and use your app on the phone or tablet to flash the maps.


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I paid $450 in total for MHD, so your saying you paid $600?? Just trying to get an exact number on how much you paid. Thanks
Just about. Customer service is top knotch and updates are released fairly often depending on needs or wants of the customer base. They try to see what most people want and release it on the next update.
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