01-01-2019, 01:54 PM | #23 |
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Good damping makes a huge difference to the ride and handling. BMW OEM adaptive dampers are a weak point, by which I mean they compromise ride and handling : too willowy (Comfort) or too stiff (Sport) but never just right. OEM passive dampers will be cheap units, and also compromised from a performance perspective.
Good dampers are not cheap, but they are absolutely worth it (a must) if you enjoy spirited driving. Personally I think ACS springs are too soft, but that's obviously very subjective. One thing that you should be able to trust, compared to the mix and match route, is that the springs and dampers have been developed by ACS to compliment each other.
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01-01-2019, 01:57 PM | #25 |
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I see.
Any issues if i just code out adaptive rather than paying 300 for the delete kit. |
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01-01-2019, 01:59 PM | #26 |
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Nope i found on m3 cutters a lot of advice from the M boys. They all use Zed coding check them out if on facebook or instagram. I spoke to him seemed a really nice bloke explained the procedure said its straight forward i think he will do it remotely if your competent of unplugging the module your self and what ever else will be needed.You will also need to have windows laptop and cable to connect to car
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01-01-2019, 01:59 PM | #27 | |
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Makes sense. Very tempted You seem to know your stuff bud. You got good experience of suspension tuning then |
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I could be wrong just a common comment that kept popping up when doing some research |
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01-01-2019, 02:09 PM | #30 | |
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01-01-2019, 02:11 PM | #31 |
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Yehh i read a lot about they were the same but then some people say they arnt so god knows mate but for me your paying for the ACS brand and if you have warranty your still covered as they are approved BMW parts i believe
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01-01-2019, 03:19 PM | #32 | ||
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My F31 started with OEM adaptive MSport suspension, then a hybrid setup (OEM adaptive dampers + ACS springs + Birds ARBs), then Ohlins Road & Track plus the ARBs and a full corner-weighted geometry alignment, and lastly adjustable top mounts. The differences have been very noticeable and each step has made an improvement, however, in hindsight the hybrid setup was a waste of money. I should have gone from OEM straight to my current setup. The car is now quite stiffly sprung (although the R&T dampers have dual flow valves which softens the secondary ride) but rides/handles very well and the steering is very precise as a result if the poly bushes. Very happy with it - no more major changes planned.
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People should be able to find the thread using Search if they need the info.
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01-02-2019, 04:19 AM | #34 |
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Eibach make most AC Schnitzer springs to AC Schnitzer specification. There are instances where the Eibach and AC Schnitzer specification is the same, the M135i being one of them, but on most cars there is a difference in spec at one end or both ends. I'm not aware of any 3 or 4 series kit where the springs are the same. Even where the specification is the same some customers feel that it is worth paying the extra for the AC Schnitzer brand which is better received by BMW dealers, especially if you are considering adding our dampers later, rather than mixing brands. Nothing wrong with Eibach though, I sell both
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01-02-2019, 09:33 AM | #35 |
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teaston asked me for the link to my previous write-up which included the spring rates for OEM, ACS and Ohlins.
Others may also be interested - see post #11. I only had the rear spring rates calculated. Ohlins publish the spring rates for its Road & Track product. I've had the front springs (60N/mm) increased to 80N/mm and it's made a big improvement. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ins+road+track
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01-06-2019, 09:11 AM | #36 |
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Hi guys
I have an adaptive suspension question. Aside from losing the 3 settings (which i don’t really mind) will i lose any other suspension features from adaptive. Say if i had in comfort all the time, doesn’t the adaptive supension constantly adjust damping depending on the road? It sound like this loss is more of a big deal compared to the 3 settings? What you think? |
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01-06-2019, 09:15 AM | #37 | |
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Eco / Comfort : generally a soft range. Sport / Sport+ : generally a much firmer range. So yes, you do lose the continuously adaptive aspect. Whether you will miss continuously adaptive dampers that are pretty shite is a different matter.
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What you think of KW street comfort as alternative to ACS dampers |
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01-06-2019, 10:27 AM | #39 | |
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It was Dr Forinor that fitted the KW street comfort suspension.
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Cheers Tengo.
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My apologies for the delayed response. I will answer questions if anyone wants to know about the KW SC.
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