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      09-02-2019, 03:58 PM   #353
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I guess in summary for n55 EWG:-

HDP5evo - is more PnP (flange/boot hole tweaks) improves stock flow by ~ 10-15% and requires zero coding

HDP6 - needs fuel pipe tweaks in addition to HDP5evo adjustments but delivers an extra ~10% over HDP5evo. Requires coding to cap 350bar down to say 250bar.

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for hdp6test ive used my oct93map . didnt require any extra coding .
the highpressure fuel pipe tweak is only minor , but the pipe itself is quite hard , cant bend it by hand .
the connector has to be trimmed and the intake manifold also like in the pictures otherwise you might damage the connector .
in terms of percentages i would be very cautious with estimates , evo is only marginally better compared to oem , hdp6 is waaay better . when i get a ethanol map from wedge we'll see how far it will stretch .
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for hdp6test ive used my oct93map . didnt require any extra coding .
the highpressure fuel pipe tweak is only minor , but the pipe itself is quite hard , cant bend it by hand .
the connector has to be trimmed and the intake manifold also like in the pictures otherwise you might damage the connector .
in terms of percentages i would be very cautious with estimates , evo is only marginally better compared to oem , hdp6 is waaay better . when i get a ethanol map from wedge we'll see how far it will stretch .
I can only find this pump new
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I've been in touch with the 2 guys doing the beta testing and their close but not there yet. Their actually looking for a ps2 car that's wedge tuned specifically

Bump for updates....any word from Spool Performance?

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I can only find this pump new
for some reason they are hard to find , while they are produced in bmw's for two years now :s
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It is a bit strange indeed as these pumps sit in everything from B38B to B58D. Mini and BMWs... I thought I had a good source until I found my spareparts lady tried to sell me the EVO pumps. She though a B58 pump is just a B58.
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Still a lot cheaper new than the other option xdi
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got the first revision of E30 map in for a test ,
hdp6 holds up pretty well



https://datazap.me/u/thomas/e30-v1?l...ata=4-19-20-21
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Seems like there is quite a bit if modification required with the hdp6. Id rather hold out for an aft pump or just go with the xdi which you now will drop right in. Bending the connections doesnt seem like something id do or id trust a shop to do.

We need a plug and play solution for this!
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Seems like there is quite a bit if modification required with the hdp6. Id rather hold out for an aft pump or just go with the xdi which you now will drop right in. Bending the connections doesnt seem like something id do or id trust a shop to do.

We need a plug and play solution for this!
bending the hp fuel line is only a few mm , it can have that pretty easely
you dont need extra coding and dont need to modify your Lp fuel line aswell .
all in all its about the same amount of job compared to xdi or else .
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got the first revision of E30 map in for a test ,
hdp6 holds up pretty well



https://datazap.me/u/thomas/e30-v1?l...ata=4-19-20-21
Have you upgraded your TMAP?

Seems like your targeted boost is off by about 2psi around 6000rpms and then by 4psi by 6700rpms.

The results do look promising though!!

Keep up the good work my friend
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ive had the tmap upgrade since i went with jb4 and cp meth some time ago
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good luck with the swap , pls post some pictures while doing it
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ive had the tmap upgrade since i went with jb4 and cp meth some time ago
But why are you off taget boost by so much?

Would normally indicate a boost leak some where
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got the first revision of E30 map in for a test ,
hdp6 holds up pretty well

https://datazap.me/u/thomas/e30-v1?l...ata=4-19-20-21
I've found that worst case scenario for an HPFP is a hard launch and ripping through the first three gears. If it's going to sag, it's typically at the top of 2nd gear. Can we see a log of that, please?

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But why are you off taget boost by so much?

Would normally indicate a boost leak some where
Looking at WGDC and the overall boost curve, I wouldn't say it's a boost leak. I'd say that it's part of the tune. Scaling up WGDC and lowering requested torque should bring the two closer together, I think.
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I've found that worst case scenario for an HPFP is a hard launch and ripping through the first three gears. If it's going to sag, it's typically at the top of 2nd gear. Can we see a log of that, please?



Looking at WGDC and the overall boost curve, I wouldn't say it's a boost leak. I'd say that it's part of the tune. Scaling up WGDC and lowering requested torque should bring the two closer together, I think.
Seems to be tune related after reviewing his past logs but not sure.

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I've been in touch with the 2 guys doing the beta testing and their close but not there yet. Their actually looking for a ps2 car that's wedge tuned specifically

Bump for updates....any word from Spool Performance?

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Price is going to be just a little north of 850 and their getting really close, but not there yet. I'll update here as soon as I know more.
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Price is going to be just a little north of 850 and their getting really close, but not there yet. I'll update here as soon as I know more.

Welll North of $850...but South of $1600 .

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good luck with the swap , pls post some pictures while doing it
I might not get it done until spring, but I'll keep you posted.
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Currently this map works on stock fueling, but pretty close to missfire on a chilly day. Currently I am running the BM3 OTS Stage 2h where you can also see that the fuel pump is having a hard time:
http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5d570b1ac090c644c52e0568
Out of curiosity, how do you see from the log that the fuel pump is struggling?
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good luck with the swap , pls post some pictures while doing it
You worried about the issues MP had with this pump on their B58s? Apparently they cooked a B58 DME running full E85 and had to write custom firmware for the pump. Your early results seem promising with no coding changes.
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Out of curiosity, how do you see from the log that the fuel pump is struggling?
Fuel pump pressure is under target and he has loads of timing corrections.
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