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30, on a road known for people doing over 40.
It's a dual carriageway and I'd just pulled in from lane 2 after passing a bus, but it's one of those roads where they were watching as I reached the brow of a hill coming towards them.
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It's almost like they actually want you to speed so they can collect the cash....
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No 14 days applied in France then! Just received a speeding ticket from last August in France, letter dated 27th of February, offence 27th of August!
No 10% tolerance either. 138 kmh in a 130, so about 5 mph over the limit. Bit harsh. If I pay within a month it'll cost me 45 euros. Tempted to ignore it, but, as I'm going back in the same car this summer, think I'll just pay up for peace of mind. |
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Send them a yellow hi vis jacket instead and signed picture of Farage, with a note saying we've taken back control. They'll love that.
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Anything less than 100 mph = a fine of $500 USD or less, a single point on your record, and you may be eligible to take traffic school to keep it off your driving record, so insurance costs won't go up. (4 points in a year, 6 in two years, or 8 in three years can trigger a suspension.) 100+ can result in two points and a license suspension of up to 30 days, plus your insurance company treats it as the equivalent of a drunk driving conviction... but if it's only a few miles over, I've been able to negotiate it down to 99 for some clients. |
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http://www.cityam.com/275061/police-...ber-attack/amp
still not had my court summons......... I'm really not that lucky. I know the postman will crush my Hope's any day now! T - 5 weeks
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I'm good again too. My 2nd lot of waiting 14 days has long since passed.
I bought a dash mount for my phone and have been using Waze ever since.
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I see in my local rag cases are appearing in court about 6 months after the offence.
There are speed vans everywhere, in all kinds of sneaky positions. I'm not condoning speeding but it used to be that these vans were situated on roads that had suffered instances of Injury accidents (or collisions as they call it nowadays) so collision hot spots. It was meant to be a deterrent and preventative. Now it appears they are put in areas where they can simply catch more people. We saw one yesterday tucked in a row of cars with the back end sticking out 10 yards short of a 30mph restriction from a 50mph zone. |
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I think 50 metres after the sign is showing quite a tolerance, to be honest, and I would not mind the camera being at the sign... There is no reason not to be doing 30 as you enter the zone, after all... I'm sorry, I am not having a go at you personally, but I genuinely do not give a flying fig where the cameras are (static or vans), if you exceed the posted limits you know you might get caught and cannot complain if you are... The only time I would have any issue with cameras etc is when the actual limit that is being enforced is clearly unclear or is not signed clearly enough...
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Using standard calculators to stop from 30mph takes ~ 2.573s (1s thinking), braking distance of 10.923m and overall stopping distance of 24.812m. If you change that to 60mph that is 4.146s (1s thinking) so a difference of 1.573s ( 43.692m braking distance, 71.470m total stopping distance) After those 1.573s the car that started off at 60 would be closer to 30 than 50. |
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What strikes me about the figures from the tables you quote is that the retardation expected seems truly linear, with the 30-0 being exactly half the 60-0 (if you discount the thinking time) ... and I'm not so sure the retardation would be linear... Regardless, that is a big discrepancy between the two indications, so I shall do a little digging and report back... Having said all that, being hit at 30 would not be all that much more fun than at 50 or so....
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It is about the distance travelled over the time periods... At the point on the road that a car doing 30 stops, after a hazard presents itself, which is about 6 car lengths after the point where it was when the hazard presented itself (according to the tables in the link below), the car doing 60 from the same point, for the same hazard, has only just started to decelerate (because it travels twice as far as the other car in that same 1 second of thinking time)... It is only actually about 14% into its deceleration at 6 car lengths, the 30 stopping distance, which, yes, equates to about 52 mph... So, yes, if a hazard presented itself and a driver was able to stop safely from 30mph, the vehicle being decelerated in the same way from 60mph would still be travelling at 52mph at the point where it could have stopped from 30mph. The top table here illustrates that... https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/l...ing-distances/ Your figures were broadly similar to the RAC tables and (discounting thinking time) the 30-0 time is the same as the 60-30 time, assuming the same rate of deceleration, but, obviously, the car travels much further over the 60-30 phase than the 30-0 phase... and also travels twice as far in the thinking time... To get to 30, the car doing 60 travels 14 car lengths (4 thinking plus 10 slowing - a combination of 8 more than the 30-0 car in that same time) then does the 30-0 in another 4... both deceleration phases take the same time... the deceleration is constant, in terms of losing velocity at a linear rate, but the distance travelled per second is decreasing logarithmically as the velocity decreases...
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You sure that you're not a Nasa scientist? Ps. One factor in stopping distance is brakes. Two different cars with different brakes will stop at different distances. Add differing tyres and any approximation to 3 decimal places becomes meaningless. |
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