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Hi guys-- hoping someone can help me out because I seem to be in a disagreement with the dealer about math...
2018 M3 MSRP: $79095 "invoice": $74992 Residual: $47457 MF: .00152 36 months / 12k miles / $0 down Acq. Fee: $925 Doc fees: $1193.40 (seems way too high to me) Incentives: $5000 By my math, I should have an adjusted cap cost of $72110 (invoice + fees - incentives). My depreciation amount (adj cap - residual) should be $24653. So depreciation payment is $684.81. Rent charge should be (adj cap + depreciation amount * money factor) $147.08. This puts me at $890 / month when you add the 7% tax. The dealer is talking about all this stuff about cap cost reduction taxes and the like... they say with these same assumptions they get to a payment of $987. It's bullshit right? Can someone confirm I'm doing the math right, please? Thank you!!! |
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12-01-2017, 10:22 AM | #2027 |
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all 3 series including M 36mo 15k 58% 12k 60% 10k 61% incentives: not available for ED (obviously) loyalty lease/APR: 1500 Holiday lease credit (lease) 3000 finance 3.34% all 4 series including M 36mo 15k 54% 12k 56% 10k 57% incentives: not available for ED (obviously) loyalty lease/APR: 750 Holiday lease credit (lease) 3000 finance 3.34% **I am no longer able to post current MF per BMW, I apologize. 2018 Models December 36mo All 3 series including m 36mo 15k 58% 12k 60% 10k 61% Apr 3.34 incentives: not available for ED loyalty lease/APR: 1500 Holiday lease credit (lease) 2000 All 4 series including M 15k 54% 12k 56% 10k 57% incentives: not available for ED loyalty lease/APR: 750 Holiday lease credit (lease) 2000 Apr 3.34%
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12-01-2017, 11:13 AM | #2029 |
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That is really disappointing. How else can it be found?
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12-01-2017, 12:32 PM | #2030 |
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12-01-2017, 02:31 PM | #2031 | |
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The only one to give me an incredible rate with no fuss up front was Steve Thomas BMW. I already had my car delivered but I still like monitoring the thread to see how things are trending. And of course I was curious to see how low things would get for the holidays before they start going up again next year. If you want to skip the hassle, I'd recommend working with Jimmy. |
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12-05-2017, 03:47 PM | #2033 | |
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December 36mo All 3 series including m Isn't Holiday lease credit (lease) is $3K?? |
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12-05-2017, 05:05 PM | #2034 |
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It seems to vary region to region. I can't confirm what other regions are doing so best to check with your current dealer and confirm.
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12-05-2017, 06:57 PM | #2035 |
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Any feedback on this deal that i am about to pull the trigger on:
Dealer Name/ Location: TN Year/Model: 2018 430i Convertible MSRP: $60,110 Options/Packages: -Premium Package -Luxury Package -Executive Package -Neck Warmer - Wheels: 19" X 8" STAR-SPOKE Negotiated Price: $51792 ( $6,318 dealer discount + $2000 BMW rebate ) Taxes: $2470 Financing: 0.99% |
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12-06-2017, 10:21 AM | #2037 | |
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note I am at $533/mo ($0 down, 10K mi, 39 mo, $56,065 MSRP, but 7 MSD's so I know that's extra $)
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12-06-2017, 10:34 PM | #2038 |
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A series of questions.... thanks in advance guys!
#1 -- Does the holiday incentive ($3,000) apply to service loaners that can be leased (under 5,000 miles) ? #2 -- What is loyalty incentive? Does it apply the same as #1 above. #3 -- Is $34,495 a good price for a $39,495 sticker 2017 320i that had been used as a service loaner and can be leased? It's ~13% below sticker... seems like they should be selling for ~20% under sticker, but don't have any experience with these things. They have both 2018 and 2017's on the lot (though pretty much all the 17's are prev. service loaners at this point). #4 -- For #3, their deal was $289 + tax, $4k out of pocket, 36 months, 10k miles a year. I don't know if this includes #1/#2. Haven't had time yet to back into the numbers. Also to note, I am using BMW's pull ahead program, which is covering all but one payment of my lease.
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12-07-2017, 11:17 AM | #2039 | |
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#2 It means you are turning in a BMW lease or trading in a BMW to get into another BMW, i.e. loyal to BMW #3 I'd shoot for more off sticker. then add the lease credit on top. At a minimum they should be coming an additional #3k (lease credit) off of the sticker price. #4 Do not put any money down. Also find out the MF and other fees that they are including in the up front payment and the monthly payment. |
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12-07-2017, 11:21 AM | #2040 | |
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They don't control the lease credit right? That comes from BMWFS? I.e., they can't screw me there, right? Same with loyalty and BMWCCA? I don't put money down on leases. Did MSD's until they dropped it in past... though not on my last M4 since I knew I'd end up lease swapping it out. REALLY hoping #1 is true... as it would result in nearly 25% off sticker.
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12-07-2017, 12:17 PM | #2043 |
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Not seeing many people post lower end 320/328 deals here -- is invoice a good price for the car (2018 320i or 2018 328i) before incentives?
Is it unlikely to get this deal? 2018 BMW 3 Series: 320i MSRP: $38,145. Sale price: Invoice (Believe this is $35,475). Holiday credit: $3,000. BMW Loyalty: ??? Is this still available? I saw it referenced in an e-mail, and from what I see it's $1,000 towards 2018 3 series... is that correct? Total sales price: $31,475. Total discounts: ~$6670 (17.5% off MSRP). Additional cash back from CCA: $500.
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Can you combine loyalty and holiday credit? I am turning in 2015 M235i lease and taking delivery of a 2018 440i at the end of this month.
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Yes you can combine loyalty and holiday. |
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12-08-2017, 05:32 AM | #2046 |
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