[J3OEF]

Hey all,

My 440i is due an oil service, should the include the micro filter?

Also, can anyone suggest the recommended oil I should be using and how much I may need as I am providing it myself rather than the garage.

Thanks

[MY340i]

Yes Microfilter would be part of the schedule.

6.5L 5W30 or 0w30

[danb1979]

Any 5W30 that meets the BMW LL04 specs and Mahle/Hengst/Mann filters J3OEF

Think your B58 has a dipstick so you can always do it that way saves crawling around on the floor, more so this time of year

IIRC you'll need c6-6.5l - sometimes it's best to get x2 5L bottles and you've got enough there for a top up if needed

Oil is a personal choice; but I've used oils from Triple QX to Shell to Liqui Moly and never really found any difference. Then again I change it twice a year generally

Best to keep it fresh etc

[MY340i]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Any 5W30 that meets the BMW LL04 specs and Mahle/Hengst/Mann filters

Think your B58 has a dipstick so you can always do it that way saves crawling around on the floor, more so this time of year

IIRC you'll need c6-6.5l - sometimes it's best to get x2 5L bottles and you've got enough there for a top up if needed

Oil is a personal choice; but I've used oils from Triple QX to Shell to Liqui Moly and never really found any difference. Then again I change it twice a year generally

Best to keep it fresh etc

B58 won't have a dipstick sadly, but spot on about the oil and filters.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by MY340i

B58 won't have a dipstick sadly

Bloody BMW

[Alscoob]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Bloody BMW

The dipstick is the person who designed the delete dipstick if you ask me!!

[Sasquartch]

Personally I'd just remove the cabin filter and see how dirty it is - it's one of those things that BMW use to justify the ludicrous service charge - it probably wont need changing unless you operate in very dusty or dirty conditions

It's easy to change though

[J3OEF]

Thanks guys.

Would this be suitable?

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60250-m...ngine-oil.aspx

Don't quite get what pricing structure on the below as they all seem to be the same brand and same 5w30 spec, unless there is more to it.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60250-m...ngine-oil.aspx

I'll look to eBay for a Mahle/Hengst/Mann filter but after a quick search, would this be suitable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392085200...Bk9SR_jlyoz3Yg

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by J3OEF

Thanks guys.

Would this be suitable?

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60250-m...ngine-oil.aspx

Don't quite get what pricing structure on the below as they all seem to be the same brand and same 5w30 spec, unless there is more to it.

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60250-m...ngine-oil.aspx

I'll look to eBay for a Mahle/Hengst/Mann filter but after a quick search, would this be suitable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392085200...Bk9SR_jlyoz3Yg

That oil is fine; check eBay for Opie's prices too as sometimes they can be cheaper

Re oil filter; just had a quick look and Mann filters are the same price as OEM on eBay currently (it's either Hengst or Mann that BMW use)

OEM BMW filter here; that'll be spot on for the oil:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265063528...Bk9SR7DH54z3Yg

Re cabin filter; yup, that looks fine

[MY340i]

cheapest way to get some good oil today is


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384821624892

Buy 2 X4L bottles of Castrol Edge

use code SAVENOW

will get it for £47 for both delivered.

[dholdi2]

Cotswold Cheltenham BMW had a decent oil deal on their faceache page.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2703...0046599716219/

Not sure if they have any left.

[TurboWeasel]

20L containers of cheap old 5W40 and £9 mahle filters for me. I do 4 oil changes a year.

[J3OEF]

Thanks again chaps.

Quick question, I've just seen a YouTube on how to do it and it seems very easy to do. How would I go about updating the iDrive if I did it myself? or do I not need to and can reset instead?

[TurboWeasel]

You need an aftermarket service manager app and an ENET cable + laptop.

[J3OEF]

Any suggestions as I have the ENET/Laptop :-)

[Rick Sanchez]

I’ll ask a stupid question here on oil grades. Both 0w30 and 5w30 looks to be approved for my F31 335d and appreciate not likely to be a huge difference on cold flow rate between 0 and 5 but…as BMW and whoever make their approved oil don’t do 0w30 in anything other than 1 litre or like massive drums, would it cause any harm/issue say doing an alternate change for winter and use 0w30 and then a summer change using 5w30?

0w30 is like what £12 a litre versus the FB deal posted of £5 a litre for 5w30.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Rick Sanchez

I’ll ask a stupid question here on oil grades. Both 0w30 and 5w30 looks to be approved for my F31 335d and appreciate not likely to be a huge difference on cold flow rate between 0 and 5 but…as BMW and whoever make their approved oil don’t do 0w30 in anything other than 1 litre or like massive drums, would it cause any harm/issue say doing an alternate change for winter and use 0w30 and then a summer change using 5w30?

0w30 is like what £12 a litre versus the FB deal posted of £5 a litre for 5w30.

Just stick with 5W30; no need for 0W30 really in the UK

0W30 is better suited to much colder climates IIRC

[Rick Sanchez]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Just stick with 5W30; no need for 0W30 really in the UK

0W30 is better suited to much colder climates IIRC

I had read as an engine gets older with more miles that a thicker oil would tend to be better. Mine has always had 0w30 so was just curious whether could go to 5w30 and back on an alternate basis to 0w30 on a twice yearly change and whether it could do any harm.

[TurboWeasel]

BMW approve the use 0W30, 5W30, 0W40 and 5W40. Older would be 100K+ on a stout engine like the N57. The dealers use 0W30 Shell Helix Ultra, but they tend to flip flop between brands according to the best price, to them.

I use 5W40 because of the 30+ degree summers we've been having the past few years.

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by J3OEF

Any suggestions as I have the ENET/Laptop :-)

There's quite a few out there but HU Manager seems to be the popular one.

One thing to bear in mind is your entries will be overwritten if you take it to BMW for a service, so you'll have to add them back in again afterwards, starting with the oldest first.

I don't bother with any of that stuff. BMW get it once every 2 years and I do several interim oil changes myself, but don't record them.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Rick Sanchez

I had read as an engine gets older with more miles that a thicker oil would tend to be better. Mine has always had 0w30 so was just curious whether could go to 5w30 and back on an alternate basis to 0w30 on a twice yearly change and whether it could do any harm.

Yeah; I tended to run 5W40 in my E39s due to their age and did so with my F01 too... Running 5W30 currently in my F31 but may switch to 5W40 next year when I do its next oil change come Feb etc

Either way; I wouldn't run 0W30 personally

[TurboWeasel]

The crappy 0W30 dealer Shell stuff caused an oil haze to come out of my oil filler after an hour's drive. 5W40 Fuchs GT1 Flex 3 completely got rid of that, and my engine is only on 58K, so it's far from a knackered old beater.

Bear in mind that oil vapour won't be doing your swirl flaps and intake ports/valves any good when it mixes with EGR soot.