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I told my friend who didn't want to wear a seatbelt to sprint as fast as possible and run head-first into a brick wall. Think about how much that would hurt. Now, imagine quadrupling that speed or more, and hitting a brick wall...then think about the kind of head injury you would have at THAT speed. Yikes! |
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10-31-2024, 04:17 PM | #94 | |
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Well, let's expand on that. Where does the line of societal protectionism end and individual rights begin? How about those who smoke or vape? How about those who overeat? How about those who eat fast food? Drink soda? Drink alcohol? Take illegal drugs? Rock climb? Hike and get lost? Drive in inclement weather when they lack the skill to do so or don't use the proper equipment ( i.e. snow tires)? Ride motorcycles? All these limited list of activities, when they go bad and affect a person's health, have a societal and insurance rates impact. Where is the line drawn? Last edited by Efthreeoh; 10-31-2024 at 05:46 PM.. |
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And more to the point, how does your insurance company know you drink 2 handles of Jack Daniels a day, or eat 15 Big Macs a day, or take illegal drugs? Are you ready for the RFID monitor you have to wear that tracks your calorie intake, blood alcohol level, brain activity when you get smoked up? Your position of monitor and control is stupid. Last edited by Efthreeoh; 11-02-2024 at 07:31 AM.. |
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People who refuse to wear a seatbelt are a great example of why all the idealistic goals in the world don't actually work.
There's no actual reason to not wear one other than "I don't like it". Huge amounts of reasons to wear it. But despite overwhelming evidence, they choose not to wear one. This kind of chaotic thinking is what ensures that all the idealistic ideas of the world won't work because some people will just buck the system for no reason other than to do it. Heres a "fun" philosophical question. Two people are driving, one is just over the legal limit for booze, the other sober but doesn't have a seatbelt on. They get into an accident, the person without a seatbelt on is flung out of the car, is impaled on a sign and does while shitting themselves. Who's the victim? |
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When I ran a track club, we ended up in a bit of a similar scenario. We decided, before it was common at track days, to require roll bars on most convertible cars. It caused a pretty big shakeup, with lots of complaints to us and many folks opting to drive with other clubs. One offer I received several times was "It's my own life, can't I just sign a release that would absolve you of any liability if I roll my car over and die?". I did not bother to ask my lawyer about generating such a release, but it would be similar to the release one would write regarding legally not wearing seat belts, I think. I.e. pretty hard to write, and impossible to enforce. |
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Your scenarios are ridiculous, no one is monitored for their bad habits, but would be if you want to start tailoring individual's insurance premiums based on their bad habits. Everyone has bad habits. |
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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You are missing the subtlety. The question is, the guy who purposely allowed himself to be killed, is he a victim? What if he's the one who caused the accident? Had that person work their seatbelt per the responsibility of the privilege of driving a car, they would survive. It's the equivalent of going into a cage full of hungry lions wearing a meat suit. Y track clubs all subscribed to the broomstick rule. Your head had to be under a broomstick place between the windshield header and whatever "factory roll structure" the car had. Very few convertibles had anything that would pass. |
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In the early 2000's, that was not the normal case for clubs in CA
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I always wear mine and since I started driving (which was a long time ago) no one is allowed to ride in a car I'm driving unless they are wearing theirs.
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