[BostonM235xi]

Originally Posted by aps

Is the price for xHP license and map pack really $240? Is there anything needed outside of those 2 if I already have a wifi dongle that I use with bimmercode? I'm not sure why but I remember seeing pricing around $500-600 and now I'm very confused lol.

It's $340 US well worth it.

[aps]

Originally Posted by BostonM235xi

It's $340 US well worth it.

ah - thanks i was looking at the 6 speed map pack for $76. that's still much better than i was expecting.

[CloudX]

Originally Posted by zazoo

xHP states that Stock has one manual mode and xHP has 3. And they are 100% right - Stock has the same speed level 3 for all modes (Comfort, Sport, Sport+) and xHP has gear shift speed level 1 for Comfort, 2 for Sport and 3+ for Sport+. I'm thinking why it just can't be 3 for Sport (at least as a payable option so the customer could choose either 2 or 3 speed level on Sport manual) while Sport+ remains 3+ and Comfort 1. I believe this would be appreciated by a lot of Manual lovers - how do you think? Now xHP manual response time comparing to Stock is Slower(comfort), Slower(sport), Faster(sport+) but it could be Slower(comfort), the Same(sport), Faster(sport+). It still would be 3 different modes with xHP, but programmed in a different way, not Slower, Slower, Faster but Slower, Same, Faster. Just my thoughts, and what are yours (for those, who use Manual often)?

I'm here right now. I use Sport in manual mode and the delay is a little obnoxious. Using the Stage 2 flash. In Sport+ mode it is back to instant paddle and manual shifter response in M. Would be cool if we can just make it behave quickly in all modes. Delay with the paddle makes it feel wrong. Very happy with the flash though. It's rad.

[thejeremyman9]

I am wondering who is using the new Line Pressure Bump feature. See PDF page 27 of the manual: https://www.xhpflashtool.com/fileadm..._manual_en.pdf

The manual states

Usually the ZF transmissions can easily cope with the typical torque increase
of a Stage 1 or 2 Engine Tune, when equipped with an xHP OTS Map. However, for very high power
increase, this option can make the difference, whether your clutch pack is able to withstand or not.
We suggest applying this option only, if you are already running into clutch slip issues, or if your engine
tune creates more than approx. +40% - 60% over stock torque. It is usually not needed for Standard
Tunes.

I elected not to flash it yet just running and OTS MHD stage 2+ map, but am curious to see what other people have done.

[kfardan]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I am wondering who is using the new Line Pressure Bump feature. See PDF page 27 of the manual: https://www.xhpflashtool.com/fileadm..._manual_en.pdf

The manual states


I elected not to flash it yet just running and OTS MHD stage 2+ map, but am curious to see what other people have done.

As stated in the manual it's only needed for "very high power" applications.
I have this option enabled on my car .. without this option enabled boost will drop on 6 gear if I'm running anything over 22+ PSI.
With this enabled it will hold till around 25-26 PSI+ without dropping on 6 gear.. unfortunately anything over 27 PSI+ and it still drop

Best way to check if you need to enable this is to log.

[Runner340]

I got the xHP flash for my car last weekend. So far not impressed. Tried stage 1 and stage 2. Didn't feel a bit of difference in any of the sport modes from stock setup. Shifts are no quicker and still a little delay like before flash. Maybe my expectations were to high and the changes are very subtle. For the money and the hype by the various youtube product reviewers, thought it would be more than changing the gear selector view in automatic shifting mode on the cluster. Haven't pushed the car as recommended for the first 50 miles to allow for adaption. Maybe I'll feel a difference then. But thought I would have noticed "something" after the flash.

[adrien78]

Originally Posted by Runner340

I got the xHP flash for my car last weekend. So far not impressed. Tried stage 1 and stage 2. Didn't feel a bit of difference in any of the sport modes from stock setup. Shifts are no quicker and still a little delay like before flash. Maybe my expectations were to high. For the money and the hype by the various youtube AM resellers, thought it would be more than changing the gear selector view in automatic shifting mode on the cluster. Haven't pushed the car as recommended for the first 50 miles to allow for adaption. Maybe I'll feel a difference then. But thought I would have noticed "something" after the flash.

did you tried M/sport+ mode?

[Runner340]

Originally Posted by adrien78

did you tried M/sport+ mode?

I will play around in sport + again tonight after work. So are you saying I'll only notice the difference in stage 2 in sport +, not in sport auto or manual with the flash?

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by Runner340

I will play around in sport + again tonight after work. So are you saying I'll only notice the difference in stage 2 in sport +, not in sport auto or manual with the flash?

The difference in comfort and "normal" transmission mode (shifter to the right) is almost imperceptible in terms of speed. However shifts do seem a little smoother and more consistent, especially the cold 1-2 that tends to lurch on OEM flash. This is true even for stage 3.

The difference is a little more noticeable when in sport/sport+ and shifter to the right, but the magic happens in sport+ and shifter to the left if you are looking for the most noticeable increase in performance.

There is absolutely a difference in shift speed and quality/feel in sport+ and sport transmission (shifter to the left), especially on stage 3. This is true not only for manual shifting but when you leave the car in auto as well. I drove gently for the first 50 miles as recommending and the moment i went into sport + and shifter to the left and did a 0-100mph pull at about half throttle the shifting was obviously different.

Also, note that the paddle response is actually slower than OEM unless you are in sport + and shifter to the left. This was discussed in several other posts.

Finally, XHP is about a lot more than just the change in shift speed/quality. Its about 'properly' removing torque limits, increasing line pressures, etc, to go along with a car that has FBO and beyond power levels. It also allows full customization of all the parameters - for example i have used the shift point editor to set my non-kickdown shiftpoints to 6300 so that WOT auto is more useable (not revving to 7k for no reason). You can also use torque limits per gear, etc.

My recommendation is go to go stage 3, drive the car a bit, then go into sport + and shifter to the left, and try both auto and manual modes. Stage 3 is totally fine for a daily driver, not harsh or anything at all.

[Runner340]

I'll give it try and flash to stage 3. Thanks for the clarification!

[itsrichierich]

Originally Posted by Runner340

I'll give it try and flash to stage 3. Thanks for the clarification!

Any updates on this?

[Runner340]

Originally Posted by itsrichierich

Any updates on this?

Perfection!

[itsrichierich]

Originally Posted by Runner340

Perfection!

So much better improvements? I know earlier you said you were kind of disspointed.

[adrien78]

Originally Posted by itsrichierich

So much better improvements? I know earlier you said you were kind of disspointed.

And he tested stg3 M/sport+ mode

[Nycking33]

Question to anyone that can answer please. I would like to purchase xHP to flash my tranny since I will be going PS2 next week. For my F30 the license is currently $171. Do you get to choose a free ots map? If not on the website the OTS maps are also $171 for 8 speed? Is this correct or am I crazy lol?

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by Nycking33

Question to anyone that can answer please. I would like to purchase xHP to flash my tranny since I will be going PS2 next week. For my F30 the license is currently $171. Do you get to choose a free ots map? If not on the website the OTS maps are also $171 for 8 speed? Is this correct or am I crazy lol?

You need to buy both. Theres no free OTS map. It seems odd yes, but that's the way it is unless you are capable of building your own custom map.

[Jnat]

I'm of the opinion that XHP changes the feel of almost everything especially if you adjust shift points. It's less perceptible in normal and basic sport but it is perceptible. in normal, sport and sport + with traction control off the shifts are tight, to me, much much tighter then stock. My 2cents......... very happy with results, it's the way it should be from factory.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by Jnat

I'm of the opinion that XHP changes the feel of almost everything especially if you adjust shift points. It's less perceptible in normal and basic sport but it is perceptible. in normal, sport and sport + with traction control off the shifts are tight, to me, much much tighter then stock. My 2cents......... very happy with results, it's the way it should be from factory.

+1. As i mentioned in one of my posts above the most tangible difference is in sport + with the trans also in sport (shifter to the left). The transmission does seem all around better in other modes as well, but you have to be keenly aware of stock operation to notice a difference.

As for shift points, i edited all of mine (without kickdown depressed) to be 6100 in both D and S modes. Stock is 6900 which frankly is unnecessarily high for stock turbo.

[Jnat]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

+1. As i mentioned in one of my posts above the most tangible difference is in sport + with the trans also in sport (shifter to the left). The transmission does seem all around better in other modes as well, but you have to be keenly aware of stock operation to notice a difference.

As for shift points, i edited all of mine (without kickdown depressed) to be 6100 in both D and S modes. Stock is 6900 which frankly is unnecessarily high for stock turbo.

Agree completely and so did I...

[itsrichierich]

I think I will be buying this today. Hopefully I can get the same positive experience you guys have

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by itsrichierich

I think I will be buying this today. Hopefully I can get the same positive experience you guys have

Go straight to stage 3, drive about 15-20 miles of city driving in D/Comfort mode, then get on the highway and do another 15ish miles in D/comfort and D/eco (eco helps with coasting and shift to neutral), then go back to city driving and do some medium throttle in D/Sport for maybe 5 miles, then let it rip with S/Sport + and you wont be disappointed

[itsrichierich]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Go straight to stage 3, drive about 15-20 miles of city driving in D/Comfort mode, then get on the highway and do another 15ish miles in D/comfort and D/eco (eco helps with coasting and shift to neutral), then go back to city driving and do some medium throttle in D/Sport for maybe 5 miles, then let it rip with S/Sport + and you wont be disappointed

How did you know I was going to ask you this?

So I was planning to flash it after work and drive home (38 mile commute) that starts off at normal traffic conditions (going about 80mph) till I get closer to Temecula, then it's bumper to bumper.

This should be fine yea? I don't see this causing any issues.