2013 f30 hu_champ2 cid upgrade

Drragos · 06-13-2018, 09:22 AM

Hi guys, i have been looking all over the internet for a way of upgrading my 6" cid, but unfortunately seems there's not much option apart from NBT route! The question that i have is if the CID from CIC based bmw f10 or other CIC based models will work with my car and if not, why?
My car production date is December 2013 and i have 6" HU Champ2.
Thank you!

IK6SPEED · 06-13-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Di3go

Hi guys, i have been looking all over the internet for a way of upgrading my 6" cid, but unfortunately seems there's not much option apart from NBT route! The question that i have is if the CID from CIC based bmw f10 or other CIC based models will work with my car and if not, why?
My car production date is December 2013 and i have 6" HU Champ2.
Thank you!

EU moved from CIC to NBT in Nov/Dec 2012.

If your F30 was produced a year later in December 2013, you should have NBT, not CIC

I am not aware of any F30 produced past July 2013 having CIC.

Regardless, a NBT CID (I did not say NBT EVO CID ) should work with a CIC System, no issues.

Drragos · 06-13-2018, 03:08 PM

Hi, thanks for the reply! I am only asking as i have read that a lot of guys have been unlucky, my unit is champ2 with a combox in the boot and i coded enhanced bluetooth myself! How can i tell for sure wich one it is? Thank you!

IK6SPEED · 06-13-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Di3go

Hi, thanks for the reply! I am only asking as i have read that a lot of guys have been unlucky, my unit is champ2 with a combox in the boot and i coded enhanced bluetooth myself! How can i tell for sure wich one it is? Thank you!

Vin number?

You have a NBT so it’s really a mute question.

Drragos · 06-14-2018, 12:24 PM

Hi, thank you for the reply!
And if i want the 3d maps and the newer style menu, is this coding only or needs programming?
Thanks!

Drragos · 02-12-2019, 06:00 PM

Hi, sorry guys for bringing up an old post, question is will my hu champ2 s606a support the bigger display or not ?

Please help, and if not waht is the most straight forward nbt retrofit ?

Thank you!

Mikesmith2939 · 02-13-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Di3go

Hi, sorry guys for bringing up an old post, question is will my hu champ2 s606a support the bigger display or not ?

Please help, and if not waht is the most straight forward nbt retrofit ?

Thank you!

Mine doesn't, no option to code it either.

Drragos · 02-13-2019, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikesmith2939

Mine doesn't, no option to code it either.

Have you tried a different screen, or just from what you learned from the forums ? And did you go nbt route, if yes what did you choose?

Mikesmith2939 · 02-13-2019, 04:11 PM

I have the same system as you, a quick check in the coding options shows the larger screen is not possible. Therefore I am still with the champ2 NBT system with move maps.

Drragos · 02-13-2019, 04:18 PM

And have you not tought about retrofiting?

Mikesmith2939 · 02-13-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Di3go

And have you not tought about retrofiting?

I have but I've been told it will be about £1600 for all the parts and coding.

Drragos · 02-14-2019, 08:56 AM

Does anybody know what type this unit is ? Thank you!

beanbaguk · 02-15-2019, 09:00 AM

Looks like a low end NBT. Some had more features than others. This also looks like it has water damage. The casing looks badly corroded! I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole!

beanbaguk · 02-15-2019, 09:03 AM

Here is my NBT that I bought a couple of years back to replace my CHAMP2 CIC unit.

Drragos · 02-15-2019, 11:18 AM

I see you have wifi capability, what is the wifi used for ?

Drragos · 02-15-2019, 11:20 AM

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F123602334172

I was actually thinking of getting this unit beaucouse of the low price, but seller has not been able to supply much info about it yet!

gizmo1908 · 02-16-2019, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikesmith2939

Quote:

Originally Posted by Di3go

And have you not tought about retrofiting?

I have but I've been told it will be about £1600 for all the parts and coding.

I went from champ2 to nbt evo. Unit and screen with controller was 770 euro's. Gps emulator and screen cable about 260 euro's. Paid for coding 100 euro's.

Best spend money ever

Drragos · 02-17-2019, 01:26 PM

Hi, what do you guys think , is around 350 a good price for all of this ?

Zheez · 02-17-2019, 02:51 PM

GBP I assume? Not too bad. However that NBT unit doesn't have DAB so if that's something you're bothered about you'll need to find one that has the dark green and curry coloured aerial connectors on the back.

They're above the black and white aerial connectors on the right side when you're looking directly at the rear of the unit. If you aren't bothered about DAB then no worries. On top of that, factor in that you'll need a new cable to link the screen to the NBT unit if the bundle doesn't come with one - I mistakenly assumed my HU_ENTRYNAV's cable would fit my NBT unit and it didn't, but it was only about £25 for a cable.

Jay928S4GT · 09-19-2019, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Drragos

Hi, what do you guys think , is around 350 a good price for all of this ?

Hello Drragos/ I have an F30 (June 2013 plate) with the HU_ Champ2 and S606A Navigation System Businesses. Not sure what I have CIC or NBT? Anyhow mine seems to be the same as yours.
You’re ahead of me so did you manage to move to 8.5” screen with every thing working - or a waste of time and money? Reason I want to upgrade is so my wife can have an easier life (especially with the kids in the back of the car causing havoc)

with a larger screen Nav all integrated to iDrive! Any feedback appreciated.

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Drragos Enlisted Member 11 Rep 32 Posts Drives: f30 320i 1.6twint alpine white Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Hi, thanks for the reply! I am only asking as i have read that a lot of guys have been unlucky, my unit is champ2 with a combox in the boot and i coded enhanced bluetooth myself! How can i tell for sure wich one it is? Thank you!
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Drragos Enlisted Member 11 Rep 32 Posts Drives: f30 320i 1.6twint alpine white Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Hi, thank you for the reply! And if i want the 3d maps and the newer style menu, is this coding only or needs programming? Thanks!
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Drragos Enlisted Member 11 Rep 32 Posts Drives: f30 320i 1.6twint alpine white Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Hi, sorry guys for bringing up an old post, question is will my hu champ2 s606a support the bigger display or not ? Please help, and if not waht is the most straight forward nbt retrofit ? Thank you!
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Mikesmith2939 Second Lieutenant 55 Rep 297 Posts Drives: 2013 320i xdrive Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I have the same system as you, a quick check in the coding options shows the larger screen is not possible. Therefore I am still with the champ2 NBT system with move maps.
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beanbaguk Captain 455 Rep 938 Posts Drives: BMW G30 520d M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Costa del Sol iTrader: (0)	Looks like a low end NBT. Some had more features than others. This also looks like it has water damage. The casing looks badly corroded! I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole! __________________ Current car: 2017 BMW G30 520d M-Sport, BMW F46 218d Grand Tourer Previous cars: 1989 BMW E30 316i, 1998 BMW E36 323i Coupe M Sport, 2009 BMW E87 116d, 2013 BMW F31 320d M-Sport
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beanbaguk Captain 455 Rep 938 Posts Drives: BMW G30 520d M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Costa del Sol iTrader: (0)	Here is my NBT that I bought a couple of years back to replace my CHAMP2 CIC unit. __________________ Current car: 2017 BMW G30 520d M-Sport, BMW F46 218d Grand Tourer Previous cars: 1989 BMW E30 316i, 1998 BMW E36 323i Coupe M Sport, 2009 BMW E87 116d, 2013 BMW F31 320d M-Sport
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Zheez Lieutenant 288 Rep 539 Posts Drives: 320D (2015) Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK (Hampshire) iTrader: (0)	GBP I assume? Not too bad. However that NBT unit doesn't have DAB so if that's something you're bothered about you'll need to find one that has the dark green and curry coloured aerial connectors on the back. They're above the black and white aerial connectors on the right side when you're looking directly at the rear of the unit. If you aren't bothered about DAB then no worries. On top of that, factor in that you'll need a new cable to link the screen to the NBT unit if the bundle doesn't come with one - I mistakenly assumed my HU_ENTRYNAV's cable would fit my NBT unit and it didn't, but it was only about £25 for a cable.
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