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      09-24-2019, 02:06 PM   #111
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I work in the coal industry. It isn't a republican problem - it is a Dem & Repub problem. It's hard for the Republicans to be willing to consider alternative energy sources when the Democrats make ridiculous claims like the Green New Deal and when every single Democrat running for President wants to completely eliminate coal mining and coal producing power plants, which will put millions out of work and triple energy costs, causing the deaths of thousands.

I agree that coal isn't a green energy source when compared to wind, solar, and the like - the problem is that those cannot produce the energy needs for the USA, and the green energy programs that can work, such as hydro and nuclear, are forbidden by all the current Democrat politicians.

We need to systematically work to increase the ability of hydro and nuclear power in the interim to offset the slow but methodical closing of coal plants, while looking at ways to increase the efficiency and lower the cost of wind and solar.

Until both sides are willing to make slow, gradual, common sense changes - nothing will change.

It isn't a left or right problem, it's a problem of government in general that wants to grandstand to the respective bases rather than come together and make real progress and solutions come to fruition.
Mostly agreed, but it is more of right problem when they don't even acknowledge there is a problem period. There are very very few Republicans even willing to talk about it because they get beat in a primary election and lose their seat. Plus you have a Republican President right now rolling back every environmental law he can find.

I do 100% agree that the Dems plans are too pie in the sky, especially AOC and especially her BS response to Gaetz's proposal. That is also where I agree the coming together needs to happen and it is both sides fault that it isn't happening for various reasons.

The loss of jobs is why I want something like this to happen sooner rather than later. Coal miners/workers time is coming to end due to market reasons as much as environmental ones. Just like over the road truck drivers are. We need something to replace those soon to be lost jobs and fairly quickly. Why not kill 2 birds with one stone with a marriage of proposals from Gaetz, Lee and less pie in the sky Dem ones. We get new industry, new jobs and it is friendlier to the environment.
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Todays modern day coal plants are clean clean clean. Thanks to “scrubbers” todays stacks push out steam for the most part. Unless you study and learn about the industry i wouldnt go about spitting cut and paste news articles.

Said it a million times. Go take the fight to china and india. China spits out more pollution than all of north america combined. Our tech is the cleanest in the world. The fight is in countries where environmental standards dont exist.
That is why I like Gaetz's approach. If you remember anything I've posted about this in the past, is that I believe climate change will be unstoppable by just reducing emissions. Mainly because the human species is incapable of coming together and solving large complex problems such as this. And the way too hard of a cultural shift from how western civilizations and developing ones are starting to live their lives.

You might want to read up as well, China is in the forefront of green technologies and implementing them. I'll give them credit as they play the really long game and know what is coming. If the US doesn't wake up and get off of it's ass they will be the undisputable leaders of the tech and have major control over a very lucrative industry. Isn't that what Republicans are about, wealth creation?
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That is why I like Gaetz's approach. If you remember anything I've posted about this in the past, is that I believe climate change will be unstoppable by just reducing emissions. Mainly because the human species is incapable of coming together and solving large complex problems such as this. And the way too hard of a cultural shift from how western civilizations and developing ones are starting to live their lives.

You might want to read up as well, China is in the forefront of green technologies and implementing them. I'll give them credit as they play the really long game and know what is coming. If the US doesn't wake up and get off of it's ass they will be the undisputable leaders of the tech and have major control over a very lucrative industry. Isn't that what Republicans are about, wealth creation?
I think its worse than that. If China is in the forefront, especially technologically, than I believe they will do everything possible to undermine our country. Dictatorships do not like democracies.
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      09-24-2019, 02:51 PM   #114
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Since when can we not not mock someone regardless of their diseases or mental state?

Just because they do or do not have a disease or are or arent crazy, doesnt mean they cant have a dumb take.

Hell, id wager a bunch of people on here are on the spectrum. Can we not mock people here too?
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      09-24-2019, 04:02 PM   #115
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Exactly. Retards and democrats have been funny forever. Gotcha bitch
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      09-24-2019, 04:12 PM   #116
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Exactly. Retards and democrats have been funny forever. Gotcha bitch
Should we make fun of the traitors/trumpsters? The party over country alt-right people on here? Seems to be an emerging affliction. If we are disregarding political correctness here, that is.
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      09-24-2019, 04:19 PM   #117
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I am not an climate scientist but this paper seems a bit too simplistic. Well I guess the jury is still out on the matter.
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Based on the comments on this forum, all 16-year-olds who have a passionate stance on anything political must necessarily be a political tool by a behind-the-scenes puppetmaster. There's no possible way they could have formulated their opinions through independent review or research of source material.

There are millions of high-schoolers who take positions on a variety of political topics (gun control, abortion, climate change, etc.). But I guess they are all incapable of coming up with an independent conclusion.

Also, this girl has Asperger's, not Downs or even autism, which means she can be "high-functioning".

If you're going to accuse a child of being a political tool or "marionette", then provide specific evidence (not just your general feeling or impression). Then, blame the adult, not the child.

Finally, this girl has more class than all of you combined. She changed her Twitter bio to read: "A very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future." She knows a joke when she sees one.
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If you're going to accuse a child of being a political tool or "marionette", then provide specific evidence (not just your general feeling or impression). Then, blame the adult, not the child.
I submit exhibit A into evidence:


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      09-24-2019, 05:30 PM   #120
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Based on the comments on this forum, all 16-year-olds who have a passionate stance on anything political must necessarily be a political tool by a behind-the-scenes puppetmaster. There's no possible way they could have formulated their opinions through independent review or research of source material.

There are millions of high-schoolers who take positions on a variety of political topics (gun control, abortion, climate change, etc.). But I guess they are all incapable of coming up with an independent conclusion.

Also, this girl has Asperger's, not Downs or even autism, which means she can be "high-functioning".

If you're going to accuse a child of being a political tool or "marionette", then provide specific evidence (not just your general feeling or impression). Then, blame the adult, not the child.

Finally, this girl has more class than all of you combined. She changed her Twitter bio to read: "A very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future." She knows a joke when she sees one.
Dude you are a little off on what high functioning means. High functioning in terms of autism means not being withdrawn and out of touch in regards to communicating with other people. It doesnt mean “rain man”.

Aspergers is a form of autism.
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Looks shoddy and classless. I'll have to give it a pass.
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Keep hiding behind emotions of kids because no actual solutions can be presented by the adults of the climate change hoax party.
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Keep hiding behind emotions of kids because no actual solutions can be presented by the adults of the climate change hoax party.
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Are you replying to somebody specific?
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Keep hiding behind emotions of kids because no actual solutions can be presented by the adults of the climate change hoax party.
Not one of those kids has any clue of what they are talking about. So easily lead and so willing to follow.
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Not one of those kids has any clue of what they are talking about. So easily lead and so willing to follow.
Quite comical the dems mock trump supporters for listening/trusting an older relatively successful business man but meanwhile they listen to children.
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This shit is hilarious. The left bring out a 16 year old girl to peddle their climate change shakedown. Then they start bitching when someone dares to criticize their Climate Jesus. When you push your kids into the arena, don't go fucking crying when the lions devour them as a part of a balanced breakfast.


Here is another take on this bs.


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Quite comical the dems mock trump supporters for listening/trusting an older relatively successful business man but meanwhile they listen to children.
Mentally handicapped children at that. And of course they are using pure emotions to try and screw us out of our money. Guess they don't realize that sane and rational people do not respond to emotions.
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Mentally handicapped children at that. And of course they are using pure emotions to try and screw us out of our money. Guess they don't realize that sane and rational people do not respond to emotions.
welp, shit take there....

This is the problem. Attacking the messenger and not the message.
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welp, shit take there....

This is the problem. Attacking the messenger and not the message.
She has aspergers syndrome
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