[440xiGCMsport]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

340 is dead even with m235. Much quicker than the 435.

Vegetable is going to say you are f'ing ridiculous.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by deznium

Nice.. Does the MPPK help reduce the turbo lag or is it still there?

I've never driven an N55 without a power kit, so I could not compare. However I've been perplexed over all this speak of lag. It's amazing how when the n55 first came out and everyone said there was no lag. Now there is?? :

[440xiGCMsport]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

I've never driven an N55 without a power kit, so I could not compare. However I've been perplexed over all this speak of lag. It's amazing how when the n55 first came out and everyone said there was no lag. Now there is?? :

The guys who say there isn't might be comparing it to other turbo cars but if you compare it to NA or supercharged cars then it definitely is there. It is still there with the B58 but it is much much reduced and almost at supercharger levels.

[AudiA4]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMsport

The guys who say there isn't might be comparing it to other turbo cars but if you compare it to NA or supercharged cars then it definitely is there. It is still there with the B58 but it is much much reduced and almost at supercharger levels.

Absolutely agree.

I still have my E90 330i alongside my F30 335i, and I can assure you the N55 has some lag in throttle response and turbo boost. It is SO apparent when driving back to back.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by JamRWS6

I'd probably disagree. An N54 car is probably every bit as fast as a N55. The 340 is the first to really compare and surpass the performance of the 335is.

I have a 335 and a 340 in the garage and here's my take. The N55 is a good engine and the MPPK makes it even better. Dyno graphs don't lie and it is proven the 340 puts down more power to the ground than a power kit 335. Are they close in a race? Yeah, it isn't a slaughtering... but the 340 is going to pull away every time. The 8HP50 in the 340 gives it another advantage over the 8HP45 in the 335 with reduced parasitic loss
This comparo is pretty typical when a new model comes out. Existing owners love their cars and refuse to believe the new car is faster. I just wouldn't want to line up next to a 340 at a stoplight and think I was going to outrun it. That's not going to happen.

Yeah well....the 340i doesn't backfire like crazy when in Sport mode like my MPPK 335i does so that everyone around you assumes your car is broken, so eat that 340i owners!

[R12ax7]

Lets not forget the revised suspension geometry and how much better the 340 steering is than the 335. I went from a 2013 335i RWD + Dinan Springs to a 2016 340i RWD and while there is a tad more body roll than i had on the 35 on account of the stiffer/lower springs, I would take the 340 as-is any day of the week for its much more predictable/progressive turn-in and general feel.

[Big Nodge]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Yeah well....the 340i doesn't backfire like crazy when in Sport mode like my MPPK 335i does so that everyone around you assumes your car is broken, so eat that 340i owners!

We long for the backfires, confused looks, scowls from wives and the elderly, cheers from toddlers and teens, and all the glorious obnoxious burrbly goodness!!!! Soon, they keep telling us. But the burbles never come.

[bones]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Yeah well....the 340i doesn't backfire like crazy when in Sport mode like my MPPK 335i does so that everyone around you assumes your car is broken, so eat that 340i owners!

Oh it sure does. With MPE my 340 sounds like the Hatfields fighting the McCoys when you let off the gas quickly in 2nd or 3rd gear.

[cmplaya]

Originally Posted by bones

Oh it sure does. With MPE my 340 sounds like the Hatfields fighting the McCoys when you let off the gas quickly in 2nd or 3rd gear.

must be nice...

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Yeah well....the 340i doesn't backfire like crazy when in Sport mode like my MPPK 335i does so that everyone around you assumes your car is broken, so eat that 340i owners!

My ex a absolutely hated when my car did that. Haha

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by R12ax7

Lets not forget the revised suspension geometry and how much better the 340 steering is than the 335. I went from a 2013 335i RWD + Dinan Springs to a 2016 340i RWD and while there is a tad more body roll than i had on the 35 on account of the stiffer/lower springs, I would take the 340 as-is any day of the week for its much more predictable/progressive turn-in and general feel.

I got a 2016 BMW 328i sportline loaner. While it was not a 335i, I did feel that the suspension setup/feel was almost identical to my 2014 335i. Note that I have a M Sport with 19 inch wheels. Just wondering if 2014 and beyond cars have been improved on handling/suspension? My car was built in November 2013.... I do feel it sticks really well to the road and has decent road feel. I just don't like the RFTs though, they make the ride bouncy on bad roads. However I have heard good comments when people switched to flat tires with 19 inch wheels.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMsport

thanks for the link on the engine. Interesting read.
if you are stuck in a traffic jam than yes you won't feel the difference. If you can't feel the difference when not stuck in a traffic jam than your but dyno needs a recalibration. The 328 feels slower significantly than the 335i.

Quite true.

For daily driving and even spirited fun driving the 2.0T is a really great 4 cylinder turbo.
However, this is no confusion when opening up a 3.0T even after opening up a 2.0T. There IS a distinct and quite noticeable difference in feel, power, and sound. After all, the 3.0T adds 2 more cylinders, a 50% increase in displacement over the 2.0T.
That change isn't going to be subtle or minor.

[RPM90]

The "burble/over-run" is interesting with the B58 compared to the N55.
I had a 2013 335i Msport 8spd w/55, and now have a 2016 340i Msport 8spd w/B58.

In "comfort", trans in standard D, there was a bit more "burble" on higher rpm shifts with the N55.
However, put the B58 into "sport" mode, trans in standard D, and get on it, the "burble" is much louder and distinct compared to the N55 in the same mode.

Now, I don't know if any of that is some fake acoustic chippery coming through the audio system, but I'm comparing this when having the stereo off and the windows down so that I'm hearing the intake and exhaust more from the outside.

As the audio "enhanced" engine sounds that are supposed to be in the LCI 340i, I'm starting to think it is off or doesn't work in my 340i.
I'm not complaining though. But, I don't hear anything additional coming from the audio system. I roll the windows up and down trying to hear this enhanced engine sound, but I just don't hear it. When I open the windows I can hear the engine and exhaust sounds at higher volume as it should be.
I would think an audio enhanced engine sound would be more noticeable with the widows closed, but I don't believe I'm hearing it.
It's either really really subtle, or it's off or broken in my 340i.

Doesn't really matter as the B58 and the exhaust sound fine to me. Quiet when driving normally and cruising with some uproar when getting on it like with my 335i, which doesn't have an audio enhanced engine sound.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by deznium

I got a 2016 BMW 328i sportline loaner. While it was not a 335i, I did feel that the suspension setup/feel was almost identical to my 2014 335i. Note that I have a M Sport with 19 inch wheels. Just wondering if 2014 and beyond cars have been improved on handling/suspension? My car was built in November 2013.... I do feel it sticks really well to the road and has decent road feel. I just don't like the RFTs though, they make the ride bouncy on bad roads. However I have heard good comments when people switched to flat tires with 19 inch wheels.

2015 and beyond had major Suspension upgrades.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

2015 and beyond had major Suspension upgrades.

What does major mean? Putting two extra screws in the front struts? or you are saying that 2015+ cars had completely revised front/rear suspension setups? I don't know if I am missing something but I drove a 2016 model and don't notice much difference. You guys must have super sensitive hands and backs.

[DD335i]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Yeah well....the 340i doesn't backfire like crazy when in Sport mode like my MPPK 335i does so that everyone around you assumes your car is broken, so eat that 340i owners!

I drove a 340i with MPE, and it backfired.
Oh it backfired. Lol

[donkey]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

2015 and beyond had major Suspension upgrades.

Source?

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by drive335

Source?

Yiglin. I forget his name, but he posts all the updates on BMW model releases. Apparently the LCI suspension was injected into 2015s. Part numbers were updates.

[440xiGCMsport]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Yiglin. I forget his name, but he posts all the updates on BMW model releases. Apparently the LCI suspension was injected into 2015s. Part numbers were updates.

it got the 4 series suspension I believe which makes the car sit lower and lowers the center of gravity. I think it is a little better damping but don't quote me on this one.

[bones]

So you guys are saying that the b58 without MPE doesn't burble and fart? that's crazy. I tacked on the MPE to my order at the last minute without knowing that. Got lucky I guess.

[bones]

Originally Posted by RPM90

As the audio "enhanced" engine sounds that are supposed to be in the LCI 340i, I'm starting to think it is off or doesn't work in my 340i.
I'm not complaining though. But, I don't hear anything additional coming from the audio system. I roll the windows up and down trying to hear this enhanced engine sound, but I just don't hear it. When I open the windows I can hear the engine and exhaust sounds at higher volume as it should be.
I would think an audio enhanced engine sound would be more noticeable with the widows closed, but I don't believe I'm hearing it.
It's either really really subtle, or it's off or broken in my 340i.

agree w/ this 100%. I can't hear anything but outside noise.

MPE is drony at 60 and 8 with the 8AT in comfort tho.

[wheen]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Yiglin. I forget his name, but he posts all the updates on BMW model releases. Apparently the LCI suspension was injected into 2015s. Part numbers were updates.

This one? http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=66

- Five point front strut mount introduced with 01/2015 production.
- Front non-adaptive struts are new with 07/2015 production (this is something that was missing in the previous versions of ETK and led to my own confusion and misinforming others).
- Front adaptive struts have been significantly rearranged. Some new part numbers have been added, old part numbers have been moved around. I had to make a spreadsheet just to be able to keep track of what goes where: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
- Rear non-adaptive shocks are new, starting with 03/2015 production.
- Rear adaptive shocks are new for LCI.
- Springs have remained either unchanged or adjusted to the next step in spring rate (could be due to extra standard equipment).
- 2VF control unit is new.