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      07-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #67
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Can't wait for 5xxd this 335d is getting too small!
I didn't know that 335d's shrink, that sucks
Lol all the rain in Florida, you know :-)
I guess it's more like this growing family needs some more room in Moms car
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      07-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #68
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low (<500ppm) sulfur diesel was phased out from retail pumps in Dec 2010. It was replaced by ultra low (<15ppm) sulfur diesel beginning in 2006. This made it compatible with diesel particulate filter technology that was mandated beginning with the 2007 MY for diesels sold in the US, and near equivalent to Euro diesel in that regard.
I think I read the European sulphur standard is less than a third of ours (at <5ppm), but I haven't looked for awhile. While those numbers are small, a 300% difference is still 3x more sulphur to deal with!
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      07-13-2012, 05:01 PM   #69
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One needs to be careful when looking at EPA ratings. The number which goes on the window sticker has been reduced from the actual test results by about 30%. The actual test result number is what is used for CAFE government regulations in the US. If if 50 MPG is the window sticker number, that is indeed amazing. If it is the unadjusted test result, it is still good, but not quite as good.
This is not accurate.
see http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ratingsNewSticker.shtml
for info on sticker. That site also shows the test routine used to derive the EPA estimates. They changed the testing scheme about 5 yrs ago and included some very agressive driving techniques to more accurately reflect how "normal" driving consumes fuel. This is why the European fuel economy estimates are so wildly different than the ones used over here. IMO the Euro numbers are "hyper miler" driving and not at all realistic.

The good news is that you can easily beat these new EPA estimates if you try.
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      07-13-2012, 05:03 PM   #70
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I think I read the European sulphur standard is less than a third of ours (at <5ppm), but I haven't looked for awhile. While those numbers are small, a 300% difference is still 3x more sulphur to deal with!
We are low enough now to be able to use the DPF. That was the goal.

The only substantial difference in the fuel available between the US and Europe is lubricity and cetane.
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      07-13-2012, 05:04 PM   #71
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well said!

I would like to see that new 6 cilynder diesel in 3 series as well..
320d and 335d

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It's about time. Excellent fuel economy without expensive battery replacements. Way to go!

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      07-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #72
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Only automatic (auto-tragic), sad news...
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      07-13-2012, 05:35 PM   #73
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nice but I'll just stick with my 328i
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      07-13-2012, 06:00 PM   #74
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For diesel engines I would recommend automatic, they are efficient, but boring, its better if an auto chooses the right RPM/gear.

Gasoline engines on the contrary with a wide RPM spectrum to use I would choose a manual.

My F11 diesel has an auto, works perfect. My supercharged 330ix have manual, and love that in that car :-)

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      07-13-2012, 06:15 PM   #75
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I will buy a 320d as soon as I can!!!! I am thrilled and thank you BMWNA.
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      07-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #76
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On a serious note that shit was funny.
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      07-13-2012, 06:32 PM   #77
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You will win the Lottery before this will come true...

BMW adheres to a strict formula when it comes to Wagons for the US & Canada, and unfortunately that combo isn't going on menu anytime soon in North America.


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      07-13-2012, 06:36 PM   #78
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You guys are crazy.

BMWs diesels have engine noise only a deaf could love.
If it has to be a diesel, I much prefer the sound from Audi's smoother sounding diesel engines.
my X5 35d is nearly silent, but we shall see on the 120d or 320d - I will buy one or the other as soon as it is available
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F31 335d please
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^^^THIS + 6speed^^^
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You will win the Lottery before this will come true...

BMW adheres to a strict formula when it comes to Wagons for the US & Canada, and unfortunately that combo isn't going on menu anytime soon in North America.
The 335d is not available anywhere right now (either sedan or touring). Only 330d and only 8 spd auto.

This link seems to conclude the 320d and 530d will be here in 12 months
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FINALLY

I posted this comment back in November:

I would think they could get 50 MPG out of 4-cylinder diesel in the new 3-series. BRING IT ON BABY. Again wake up Munich Marketing. BTW any job openings for people that understand the U.S. buyer?

I guess they woke up - Yeah!
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      07-13-2012, 07:38 PM   #81
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I will be getting a 2 series or 3 series diesel for my next car...mark my words!
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      07-13-2012, 07:38 PM   #82
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Thats awesome! Best news I read today. Makes me think the n55 335i is arlready kind of obsolete, because BMW is constantly making changes and coming out with new things. I bet the F32 335i has more power, who knows maybe a different engine even. Interesting launches for BMW this next year or so.
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      07-13-2012, 08:08 PM   #83
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new 2015 x5d is mine
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      07-13-2012, 08:10 PM   #84
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it's about F**CKING TIME!!!!
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Mate the 6-cyl with a tri-turbo and stick it in a light M2/Z2 body
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      07-13-2012, 08:46 PM   #86
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About time!! In June I had the opportunity to take a 2012 120d 6mt hatch around germany and it was fun enough to drive while still getting amazing gas mileage. The whole time I was just grumbling to myself about how I wished they brought this over to the states...may come true in 3 series form soon!
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But can the engines use diesel blended with bio-diesel? If not, you wind up searching for a station that does not use any additives (at least in the Midwest).
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But can the engines use diesel blended with bio-diesel? If not, you wind up searching for a station that does not use any additives (at least in the Midwest).
Good point-some states are providing tax incentives to retailers to carry ever increasing biodiesel percentages, making it difficult to find approved fuel.

All BMW diesels sold in N America since 2009 are approved for use of up to 5% biodiesel.
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