[jas76]

hi everybody,

my first post and BMW

I just took my car in last week and asked for the to do this. They had no problem with it. Had my car all day but when I had came back to pick it up the SA told me I lucked out. I was a little confused at first I asked how so?

Apparently as of August 1st 2013 BMW will no longer allow the dealers to reprogram this off by default. EPA got after BMW I was told.

I would be curious if others heard this or he is just blowing smoke up my rear lol

anyhow, loving my 328I

-J

[valley_nomad]

Unless they can show some official document from BMW, it may be just one of their many "rules" for not doing ASS recoding

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by jas76

hi everybody,

my first post and BMW

I just took my car in last week and asked for the to do this. They had no problem with it. Had my car all day but when I had came back to pick it up the SA told me I lucked out. I was a little confused at first I asked how so?

Apparently as of August 1st 2013 BMW will no longer allow the dealers to reprogram this off by default. EPA got after BMW I was told.

I would be curious if others heard this or he is just blowing smoke up my rear lol

anyhow, loving my 328I

-J

I believe this for certain. They registered the cars with the feature enabled. Then they issued a bulletin authorizing dealers to disable it. They probably shouldn't have issued a formal bulletin.

Pretty much all manufacturers have alternative calibrations available to address customer driveability complaints, but they don't go out of their way to spread the word about it.

[Frank_NJ]

With my 2014 it remembers last setting off and the car was not reprogrammed.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by Frank_NJ

With my 2014 it remembers last setting off and the car was not reprogrammed.

2014's have this standard from the factory.

[chuckles01]

Originally Posted by Frank_NJ

With my 2014 it remembers last setting off and the car was not reprogrammed.

Wait really? So 2014s have this as a standard configuration? That's good then! I'm expecting my 2014 328i in about 3 weeks... if that's the case, then I won't have to try to "convince" the dealer to reprogram it, since it seemed like such a hassle in my previous two attempts to talk to them about it. I am surprised that the dealer doesn't know anything about this change for the 2014 models though. Can anyone else with a 2014 also confirm this change?

[JesseS]

Originally Posted by chuckles01

Wait really? So 2014s have this as a standard configuration? That's good then! I'm expecting my 2014 328i in about 3 weeks... if that's the case, then I won't have to try to "convince" the dealer to reprogram it, since it seemed like such a hassle in my previous two attempts to talk to them about it. I am surprised that the dealer doesn't know anything about this change for the 2014 models though. Can anyone else with a 2014 also confirm this change?

I talked to a CA today who said they've quietly started doing it at the PDCs in the US, but they can't do it in the factory because some countries require it to default on for the designated eco certification that bmw wants/needs. They should know at the factory, of course, what country a particular build is destined for but I imagine things get swapped around a lot during production.

He also said there have been some 2014s that have shown up w/ ASS still set to 'default on', but it's been uncommon so far.

*shrug*

It still turns on in Eco Pro mode of course and doesn't automatically turn off if you switch to a different mode.

[Frank_NJ]

Originally Posted by chuckles01

Wait really? So 2014s have this as a standard configuration? That's good then! I'm expecting my 2014 328i in about 3 weeks... if that's the case, then I won't have to try to "convince" the dealer to reprogram it, since it seemed like such a hassle in my previous two attempts to talk to them about it. I am surprised that the dealer doesn't know anything about this change for the 2014 models though. Can anyone else with a 2014 also confirm this change?

My dealer told me this before even delivering the car so I was like....sure! But I tried ti and ti remembers last setting adn I keep it off. I was told part of key memory for the car now.

[JasonX4MComp]

The ASS feature is set to remember last setting on ALL MY14 from the factory

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by BMWDude49120

I have absolutely no desire to allow my car to turn on and off on its own, so I am happy to see BMW now offer this option. I will certainly make sure to have this coded before taking delivery.

It is beyond annoying. It is a blatant intrusion into my personal life by eco crazy tree huggers.

[Yobyot]

Originally Posted by Damon44

It is beyond annoying. It is a blatant intrusion into my personal life by eco crazy tree huggers.

I love ASS. It allows me to get >27mpg so that when I decide to unleash the N55 I don't feel guilty. With recent software updates, ASS is significantly smoother and when people are in the car and the system engages, it always gets a "Wow."

ASS is part of what makes the F30 such a cool car. I don't care what your politics are, ASS is great.

[Iscariote]

I don't like it, not about politics. I also worry about the effect of starting and stopping the engine all the time. Maybe not a big deal if you're leasing the car but I bought mine and plan to keep it longer than three years.

[joewalton]

Originally Posted by Damon44

It is beyond annoying. It is a blatant intrusion into my personal life by eco crazy tree huggers.

Agreed, but my new 2015 has ASS pre-coded for "remember last position" so it's not an issue any more. Let the tree huggers enjoy, it doesn't ruin your life.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by Yobyot

I love ASS. It allows me to get >27mpg so that when I decide to unleash the N55 I don't feel guilty. With recent software updates, ASS is significantly smoother and when people are in the car and the system engages, it always gets a "Wow."

ASS is part of what makes the F30 such a cool car. I don't care what your politics are, ASS is great.

BMW as well as experts caution on the ASS as specifically as likely to prematurely wear out specific components, not the least ignition and a few other components. Outside warranty, a single such job would likely eliminate most if not all savings in mpg in a few years.

Another issue, and Transport Canada is now on a potential investigation on it, is real pure safety. Happened to me. Imagine coasting in slow traffic, and ENGINE SHUTS OFF. The ASS was ON that incident. In that case, I was unaware it was ON, view-blocked by the pad shifters. Besides, you get used to the light and one forgets it. So, I cruised to nearly a halt, than a halt, and it instantly turned my car off. Problem: although the car ahead had pulled off again, the one in my rear was NOT SLOWING DOWN AND I HAD JUST SHUT OFF ON A HIGHWAY. I lost 0.75-1.5 second prior to restarting and 1 more second before getting to safety. Had the car in the rear hit me it would have been their fault. However, my best driving skills could not change the fact that in the second the car stopped, I could not take evasive action in a 75k CAD car..

Second time it happened was in a parking lot. Similar scenario - and just about any time backing in parallel- stopping before turning, it cuts off the engine. Another car suddenly appeared and I was again 1-1.5 seconds without any reaction.. I was again lucky.

Could get worse on winter ice and slush if the wheels really slow down or reach zero traction. ASS will still turn your engine off.

TC told me, off the bat, that if the vehicle stops in situations not intended, when needing power, it may be 100% safety issue. This mechanism was meant to kick off and save emissions at a red light stop, not when dropping speed to 0 and restarting!!! Anyway, if this feature ever denied you acessing vehicle power, in a place NOT INTENDED TO STOP, then the best venue is formal notification of your federal Transportation body. That WILL get BMWs attention.

So 12000 kms and two unacceptable incidents. Am lucky as I never drive to work and not having experienced that more often as I rarely get stuck in traffic.

The ASS would work if 'Smart' to shut engine off after... 5 seconds say? But when you are decelerated temporarily, makes no sense.

Mine is deactivated, peace of mind. It only turns on if in Eco mode, but if you remmeber to turn it off, it will remmeber the last setting esp Comfort and Sports

[smithf80]

Originally Posted by Musashi

BMW as well as experts caution on the ASS as specifically as likely to prematurely wear out specific components, not the least ignition and a few other components. Outside warranty, a single such job would likely eliminate most if not all savings in mpg in a few years.

Another issue, and Transport Canada is now on a potential investigation on it, is real pure safety. Happened to me. Imagine coasting in slow traffic, and ENGINE SHUTS OFF. The ASS was ON that incident. In that case, I was unaware it was ON, view-blocked by the pad shifters. Besides, you get used to the light and one forgets it. So, I cruised to nearly a halt, than a halt, and it instantly turned my car off. Problem: although the car ahead had pulled off again, the one in my rear was NOT SLOWING DOWN AND I HAD JUST SHUT OFF ON A HIGHWAY. I lost 0.75-1.5 second prior to restarting and 1 more second before getting to safety. Had the car in the rear hit me it would have been their fault. However, my best driving skills could not change the fact that in the second the car stopped, I could not take evasive action in a 75k CAD car..

Second time it happened was in a parking lot. Similar scenario - and just about any time backing in parallel- stopping before turning, it cuts off the engine. Another car suddenly appeared and I was again 1-1.5 seconds without any reaction.. I was again lucky.

Could get worse on winter ice and slush if the wheels really slow down or reach zero traction. ASS will still turn your engine off.

TC told me, off the bat, that if the vehicle stops in situations not intended, when needing power, it may be 100% safety issue. This mechanism was meant to kick off and save emissions at a red light stop, not when dropping speed to 0 and restarting!!! Anyway, if this feature ever denied you acessing vehicle power, in a place NOT INTENDED TO STOP, then the best venue is formal notification of your federal Transportation body. That WILL get BMWs attention.

So 12000 kms and two unacceptable incidents. Am lucky as I never drive to work and not having experienced that more often as I rarely get stuck in traffic.

The ASS would work if 'Smart' to shut engine off after... 5 seconds say? But when you are decelerated temporarily, makes no sense.

Mine is deactivated, peace of mind. It only turns on if in Eco mode, but if you remmeber to turn it off, it will remmeber the last setting esp Comfort and Sports

The system definitely changes how it functions over time. Mine doesn't shut off nearly as often as it used to.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by smithe90

The system definitely changes how it functions over time. Mine doesn't shut off nearly as often as it used to.

Are you sure there was not some software update while you went in for maintenance? When I got rid of mine I must have had 14000 kms and it was the last highway and parking lot stops that did it for me. I can still activate it manually.

[itznin]

Looking to revive this thread... Just got my 2013, do you think I can get the dealer to perform the SIB?

I can't stand the auto-off feature and find myself manually turning it off EVERY TIME I drive... real annoying.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by itznin

Looking to revive this thread... Just got my 2013, do you think I can get the dealer to perform the SIB?

I can't stand the auto-off feature and find myself manually turning it off EVERY TIME I drive... real annoying.

I don't see why not. Call the service department and ask.

[itznin]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

I don't see why not. Call the service department and ask.

Well based on what I was reading in this thread, it was said that they had stopped doing it saying it was restricted.

I was wondering if anyone with a 2013 had it done recently.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by itznin

Well based on what I was reading in this thread, it was said that they had stopped doing it saying it was restricted.

I was wondering if anyone with a 2013 had it done recently.

Not trying to be harsh, but it's literally a 10 minute phone call with a service advisor. It's been 24-hours since you posted this thread. Calling the dealer would have saved you 23 hours and 50 minutes of waiting

[bradleyland]

Here's how you ask (to save as much time as possible):

Hi, I have a 2013 3-series, and I was wondering if your service department is able to convert my auto-stop-start to "last user mode" based on SIB 12 15 12.

The service advisor will know exactly what you're talking about, because this SIB was so popular. If they say no, call another dealer until you find one that will.

[chrisca70]

An update for recent lurkers,

Just called my local dealer, total with tax to disable the Auto Stop/Start on my 2013 X1 is $200. I am going to buy a Carly Adapter ($80) + App ($60) and do it myself...