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Mechanical spoilers... just one more thing to bring in for service on a regular basis.
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What are the holes on/around the gas door?
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Should put this on the next gen M3
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The 3 GT is targeting a different customer as is evident by this spoiler and when the cladding comes off the rear will be much more aggressive as will the wheel packages.
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LOL. I was saying that yesterday in the other F30 thread. Don't get me wrong, its a great car with a perfect interior. The only complaints I have are that the rear end is similar to 5 series and more importantly the nose is too low. However, these are just minor issues. M-sport looks great.
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03-01-2012, 03:19 PM | #33 |
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Only because the 5 series wagon no longer exists in the NA market! Sure though, it did outsell the outgoing 5 series wagon... which was ugly as sin to begin with. Also if you want to count promotional/dealer allocations on a newly released model. Doesn't count for a hill of beans in my view. The 5GT plainly does not look good. The F11 I think is gorgeous OTOH. Most people DO buy based on looks!
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Looks like they took the mechanical spoiler system off the special Mini Coupe model. Had to get extra use out of that development.
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This will sell more than the MINI Coupe' so I tend to think it was the other way around and if you think about development timelines this began first even though that is already at market because that is not a new product but a variant.
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lmao, that reminds me of something my uncle told me once. He once had a brand new car (forgot what make but it had a LOT of tech on board), and one day he had car trouble in the middle of nowhere. He had his hood open when all of the sudden this farmer comes by on his old simple tractor, the farmer looks inside and says "wow that car has a lot of nice stuff, too bad everything can also break down" hahaha. I can only imagine the expression on my uncle's face
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Might work for a coupe .. GT, not so much (as borat used to say)
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The E61 5er Touring led a defeat for the Premium wagon and the rise of the Premium SUV in North America. Volvo and Audi followed , Mercedes are experiencing the same effect with the E-Klasse against the all-new ML-Klasse. The F31 Touring is coming to the US but if it underperforms it will be pulled sooner than later. In this segment Audi have already pulled the A4 Avant and Volvo and Mercedes did not bother with the C-Klasse and V60 respectively. Again thanks to the Premium mid-size SUV. The 3er GT is again more euro-centric but developed to appeal globally. It will embody the features that make the 5er GT highly Individual but in a more sportier package. It is a 3er underneath and that means it will not be a wall flower. The clever thing here is that a lot of the panels are fake and really add mass to the car but underneath it is very well proportioned and sculpted. Again the 3er GT will share the same engines as the 3er Sedan and Touring so it will open the market to a new generation of customers , especially a specific demographic who would never have considered a BMW before. Which is another thing that can count as a success for the 5er GT. Nine out of ten owners have made the 5er GT their first BMW. In a little piece of trivia- The active aerodynamics of the 3er GT is not BMW's first venture into equipping its cars with the function. In the late nineties when in Germany the Audi TT was turining Turtle on the autobahn. BMW became concerned about the swoopy rear end of the Z8 and tested a flip-up active aid , however it never became an issue as the BMW Z8did not need it. BMW M were also developing one for the production model of the CS Concept. Which had the road been much smoother we would have had it now.
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03-01-2012, 07:34 PM | #42 |
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For those asking why on this car...I have one idea....
My guess is that BMW wanted to lower the back lid of the 3 series GT to improve the aesthetics based on the response to the 5GT. But with the sloping line of the rear window and the lower lid, a great deal of lift will be created as the long surface of the back window creates low pressure. The solution? A retractable spoiler to interrupt the airflow and reduce the low pressure that would make the back end lose at higher speeds. On my 2008 Audi TT, the retractable spoiler served a similar aerodynamic purpose and the results could be felt. Scott26..thanks for posting a global view here too! So nice to hear. In Taiwan, the 5series GT is often considered by buyers who cannot afford a 7 series and would otherwise buy an A8 which is fairly cheaper here. So for this buyer, the 5GT is different from the 5-series, and closer to a 7, and the 2 guys I know who have the car love it! I still think it looks a lot better when the garage is dark until after I'm inside the car though! Last edited by Taipei-TT; 03-01-2012 at 07:39 PM.. Reason: Added comment based on Scott26s earlier post. |
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Am actually quite excited if they can pull a slick shape with the 3GT.
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