SIB/TSB: BMW will reprogram Auto Start-Stop to default to last user mode

Frankisme · 08-10-2012, 07:54 AM

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I have an appointment with dealer on Monday to convert my A.S.S. to the last user mode.
It will never come back on again one it's selected off. I can't wait.

Service Bulletin listed below.

SIB 12 15 12

INFORMATION
The Automatic Start/Stop (MSA) system is a further BMW Efficient Dynamics measure aimed at meeting BMW's commitment to reducing CO2 emissions and enhancing fuel economy.

BMW, always a leader in innovative technology, will be the first automobile manufacturer to bring MSA technology to all new models.

Automatic Start/Stop systems will become prevalent in the future, as manufacturers strive to meet increasingly stringent emissions and fuel economy requirements.

By automatically switching the engine off when the car is stationary, MSA can improve fuel economy and reduce emissions.

New F-vehicles now incorporate the second generation of MSA (MSA II), which has been further developed to operate in combination with an automatic transmission and the BN2020 electrical system.

A detailed description of the MSA Automatic Start/Stop function can be found in the ICP Technician library under Technical Training course ST1112.

SITUATION
Some drivers have expressed the desire to deactivate this function in certain situations. This can be done manually via the Automatic Start/Stop function button with the LED switched on, indicating that the start/stop function is deactivated.

However, by default, the Automatic Start/Stop function is reactivated each time the engine is started.

At the request of an owner, it is possible to modify this default logic to "Last user mode."

With this logic, the current MSA's activated or deactivated setting is stored and used on the next trip.

Note: All new BMW M models have the "Last user mode" as the default setting from production.

RASHID007 · 08-10-2012, 08:24 AM

I've done that myself through coding but happy to see the dealer can now do it too. Good info.

LAnderson23 · 08-10-2012, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankisme

I have an appointment with dealer on Monday to convert my A.S.S. to the last user mode.
It will never come back on again one it's selected off. I can't wait.

Service Bulletin listed below.

SI B12 15 12

INFORMATION
The Automatic Start/Stop (MSA) system is a further BMW Efficient Dynamics measure aimed at meeting BMWâ€™s commitment to reducing CO2 emissions and enhancing fuel economy.

BMW, always a leader in innovative technology, will be the first automobile manufacturer to bring MSA technology to all new models.

Automatic Start/Stop systems will become prevalent in the future, as manufacturers strive to meet increasingly stringent emissions and fuel economy requirements.

By automatically switching the engine off when the car is stationary, MSA can improve fuel economy and reduce emissions.

New F-vehicles now incorporate the second generation of MSA (MSA II), which has been further developed to operate in combination with an automatic transmission and the BN2020 electrical system.

A detailed description of the MSA Automatic Start/Stop function can be found in the ICP Technician library under Technical Training course ST1112.

SITUATION
Some drivers have expressed the desire to deactivate this function in certain situations. This can be done manually via the Automatic Start/Stop function button with the LED switched on, indicating that the start/stop function is deactivated.

However, by default, the Automatic Start/Stop function is reactivated each time the engine is started.

At the request of an owner, it is possible to modify this default logic to â€œLast user mode.â€

With this logic, the current MSAâ€™s activated or deactivated setting is stored and used on the next trip.

Note: All new BMW M models have the â€œLast user modeâ€ as the default setting from production.

Nice find! Thanks for sharing.

shabadoo25 · 08-10-2012, 09:03 AM

I've turned it off once in bumper to bumper traffic.

Can't imagine why anyone would want to permanently code it off.

Zirenz2006 · 08-10-2012, 09:04 AM

Nice find! I want to go have this done. I was going to code some other things but will probably do this until I get to it.

shoptb · 08-10-2012, 09:04 AM

Great info....do you happen to have the date for the Service Bulletin?

The X Men · 08-10-2012, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabadoo25

I've turned it off once in bumper to bumper traffic.

Can't imagine why anyone would want to permanently code it off.

Its not permanently off, you can still turn it on. If you it off, it will stays off the next time you start the car until you turn it on.

I do not find the ASS annoying, its easy enough to turn it off my pushing a button or put the tranny in the DS mode.

JamesMA · 08-10-2012, 09:11 AM

I am definitely going to have this done before I take delivery.

shabadoo25 · 08-10-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The X Men

Its not permanently off, you can still turn it on. If you it off, it will stays off the next time you start the car until you turn it on.

I do not find the ASS annoying, its easy enough to turn it off my pushing a button or put the tranny in the DS mode.

If you are going to the trouble to recode it, obviously you want it off a lot.

justinnum1 · 08-10-2012, 11:17 AM

great find

RFGuy_KCCO · 08-10-2012, 12:11 PM

I have absolutely no desire to allow my car to turn on and off on its own, so I am happy to see BMW now offer this option. I will certainly make sure to have this coded before taking delivery.

shabadoo25 · 08-10-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWDude49120

I have absolutely no desire to allow my car to turn on and off on its own, so I am happy to see BMW now offer this option. I will certainly make sure to have this coded before taking delivery.

RFGuy_KCCO · 08-10-2012, 12:18 PM

I'm not sure why you find my comment so funny. It wasn't meant as a joke.

martianpc · 08-11-2012, 12:20 AM

I just picked up my car today and was told that the service department will code the ASS to remember the last setting as a default for no charge with approval from BMW NA. They will only make one free change I was told. For those of you who do not want to code, this would be worth looking into. Call with Vin ahead of time so they can get approval from BMW to do it.

metrickid · 08-11-2012, 12:24 AM

Already posted, http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=729556

ptt127 · 08-11-2012, 01:00 AM

Now they just need to do the same for Sport mode...

emtrey · 08-11-2012, 08:39 AM

My car is due this week. I sent my CA a request to have this coding done before they deliver the car. It would be awesome if sport could be set to "default" and button press back to comfort if desired.

Jadar · 08-11-2012, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptt127

Now they just need to do the same for Sport mode...

LORD yes! I have an appointment next week to get the ASS/MAS switched to last user mode

rwrwrwrw · 08-11-2012, 11:03 AM

I would agree, this should be standard feature. No cost to BMW and it provides convenience to their customers.

When I turn on SS it is also hidden behind the wheel, it would be nice to have a light come on in the instrument panel to indicate the status.

TrueBlue12 · 08-11-2012, 11:41 AM

is this something im gonna be able to drop by and get done in less than an hour?

Jadar · 08-11-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueBlue12

is this something im gonna be able to drop by and get done in less than an hour?

Nope. I asked yesterday they said any type of reprograming takes 4-5 hours. You will be sporting one of their loaners in the mean time.

Maz335i · 08-11-2012, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptt127

Now they just need to do the same for Sport mode...

+1

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martianpc Private 11 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Central, PA iTrader: (0)	BMW will code ASS to default to last setting for free I just picked up my car today and was told that the service department will code the ASS to remember the last setting as a default for no charge with approval from BMW NA. They will only make one free change I was told. For those of you who do not want to code, this would be worth looking into. Call with Vin ahead of time so they can get approval from BMW to do it. __________________ 2013 MG 335i
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