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Head over to your dealer and check out a 535i vs. a 650i Gran Coupe. Two different cars/experiences.
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You're mad at yourself, not at BMW. Go get a massage and chill the hell out. Come back when you've had time to process.
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Can't get Saddle Brown with MSport. Damn it.
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328i sedan base MSRP: $36,850 328i coupe base MSRP: $38,700 The price difference isn't as high, but we're comparing the E92 coupe to an F30 sedan. New models often come with price hikes, so the cost delta will vary based on where the model cycles fall.
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people dont want to pay 70k out the door for a none M 3-series? Don't worry, we now offer 4 series for those who pursue sports and luxury.
Ok now, seriously speaking... during the E46 and E9x transition, we saw a huge gain in power and potential even when you compared the E46 M3 and regular N54 335. Yes, I know this all happened during the horse power war and now everyone is/has to go green. But wasn't it fun? Yes it was. The none M model were able to compete with the previous M3. For the very same reason, many 335 owners were previously E46 M3 owners. Some may call it a downgrade but many treated it as an upgrade. Fast forward to 2013, now what do we have here. A rebranded 3 series with many upgrades but perhaps lacking the most important, the engine. I loved the N54 found in my '07 E92, even though it wasn't matured until later 09 and continually to be perfected. I also liked N55 in my '11 E82. Regardlessly how great those two engines are, they should not be used in the new F3x platform. They are great engines, but also brings no excitement. I do enjoy switching between my E90 M3 and the E82 135. Will I replace my E90 M3 with another N55? Why the heck would I do that? Now BMW, there are still time. If you guys are playing the E9x 330 to E9x 335 upgrade card again, I've got my pen and check ready. A N55tu or something along the line will be great. If that doesnt happen, I will still buy the F3x M, but the other parking spot may be reserved for something else besides a BMW.
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I use the full 300hp (and overboost) in my 335is every single day.
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Diehard fans and purists are the ones that help build the brand but it's the mainstream consumers that brings in the money.
In case you guys haven't noticed, BMW has no problems selling cars. They are having records sales at the moment. Why give the consumer more and charge less when they can get away with giving the consumer less and charge more?
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Choosing a new car used to be a great experience...something to cherish with the brochure, gorgeous cutting edge choices that made you drool. Wheres the innovation gone? Where's the outstanding quality? Come on BMW, your customers (and dealers i suspect) are starting to become fed up of this. We want luxury sport AND modern.....all three.....not one of them...all wrapped up in the ultimate driving machine. Back to basics PLEASE.
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+1 I had drove an E46 M3 again and fell in love all over again... it was exciting... And taking curves so fast I totally had the oh shit factor... and the previous M3s and M5s... And then you can smell the crayon smell... even the non Ms... So everyone is well let's bank on the M2 bringing some of that back... weight and agility may be there... but materials not so much |
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