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      09-03-2020, 02:09 PM   #45
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Ive been running staggered 225 front and 255 rear as vintersetup. Tires are Continental 860TS.
I have had no issues with those in the vinterweather in Denmark and southern Sweden. Not much snow here but a lot of black ice.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/C...act-TS-860.htm
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How to calculate the difference in % , and is the wheel size important or only the tyre size?

for example , i have a xdrive m240i , with default 7,5x18 and 8,x18 and 225/40 front and 245/35 rear.

if i buy new wheels 8x18 and 9x18 with the same tyre size (225/40 front and 245/35 rear) , is that good ?

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How to calculate the difference in % and is the wheel size important or only the tyre size?

i have a xdrive m240i, with default 7,5x18 and 8,x18 and 225/40 front and 245/35 rear.

if i buy new wheels 8x18 and 9x18 with the same tyre size (225/40 front and 245/35 rear), is that good?
only tyre size is important. to calculate difference in % go here...https://tiresize.com/comparison/

if you want to compare wheel diameter, width, offsets and tyres, go here...
https://www.willtheyfit.com/

225/40/18 & 245/35/18 is 1.2% difference from BMW

if your new wheels are 18x8 & 18x9, you can use your original tyres but i would use 225/40/18 & 255/35/18 OR 235/40/18 & 265/35/18 if their offsets permit.
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only tyre size is important. to calculate difference in % go here...https://tiresize.com/comparison/

if you want to compare wheel diameter, width, offsets and tyres, go here...
https://www.willtheyfit.com/

225/40/18 & 245/35/18 is 1.2% difference from BMW

if your new wheels are 18x8 & 18x9, you can use your original tyres but i would use 225/40/18 & 255/35/18 OR 235/40/18 & 265/35/18 if their offsets permit.
thanks for explaning.. i drive xdrive so i think indead the 225/40/18 & 255/35/18 would fit the best ( -0,4% difference only )
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I'm new to the xdrive scene and wanted to do a staggered set up. I've read through the thread and used the calculators you guys posted and my numbers come up as -0.4. I'm assuming that is acceptable correct?
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I'm new to the xdrive scene and wanted to do a staggered set up. I've read through the thread and used the calculators you guys posted and my numbers come up as -0.4. I'm assuming that is acceptable correct?
yes, it's acceptable for x-drive

since you're using taller than OEM tires, your front offset should be between +30-35 and rear between +40-45. this should mitigate any interference problems while turning full lock up front and during large compression for the rear.
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Bit of an old thread, but to add one more experience to the stack...

I started to quote multiple posts, but there are many of them, so I won't. But this is regarding which tires wear out faster, front vs. rear. My xDrive has a square setup with Pirelli Cinturato P7s.

On every car I've ever owned, the fronts wear out faster than the rears due to reasons explained earlier on this thread, scrubbing in turns. Even on strictly RWD vehicles, this has been the case.

For me, however, this car DOES wear out the rear tires faster than the front. I have no idea why, I don't get on my car hard from a stop or really even push it hard but once in a while. But, it does. Defies logic.
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Always goes out first the tires form drive axle
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Always goes out first the tires form drive axle
45 years of driving RWD cars that always wore out the front tires faster tells me otherwise. One might think that if the rears are providing all of the force when accelerating that they'd wear faster, but that's cancelled out by the fronts providing most of the stopping power. Where this doesn't apply is if you're doing silly stuff. like burnouts and drifting.



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Even with xdrive rear tires goes out first. Maybe the sides of front tires goes out first but not all surface.
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My boss, who also drives a BMW, just told me about this issue. His friend allegedly wrecked his xDrive because of different wear of his different sized wheels.
My BMW is from 12/2015. The winter wheels are all the same size, but the summer wheels are 225/40 R19 and 255/35 R19. Now, since all wheels are originally from BMW, I always thought, nothing can go wrong. Do I have to fear a big gear box damage in the future (with big bill), after what my boss said?
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My boss, who also drives a BMW, just told me about this issue. His friend allegedly wrecked his xDrive because of different wear of his different sized wheels.
My BMW is from 12/2015. The winter wheels are all the same size, but the summer wheels are 225/40 R19 and 255/35 R19. Now, since all wheels are originally from BMW, I always thought, nothing can go wrong. Do I have to fear a big gear box damage in the future (with big bill), after what my boss said?
225 40 and 255 35 r19 are standard BMW F30 xDrive staggered tires, so no worries on that setup
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My boss, who also drives a BMW, just told me about this issue. His friend allegedly wrecked his xDrive because of different wear of his different sized wheels.
My BMW is from 12/2015. The winter wheels are all the same size, but the summer wheels are 225/40 R19 and 255/35 R19. Now, since all wheels are originally from BMW, I always thought, nothing can go wrong. Do I have to fear a big gear box damage in the future (with big bill), after what my boss said?
225 40 and 225 35 r19 are standard BMW F30 xDrive staggered tires, so no worries on that setup
Yup, that in the UK, M Sport (and maybe other trims) came with factory staggered wheels, 225 front, 255 rear.
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If I'm running front 235/40/19 and rear 265/35/19 on my 2017 330i Xdrive, will this data fit for my Xdrive system?
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      06-18-2021, 08:10 AM   #59
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If I'm running front 235/40/19 and rear 265/35/19 on my 2017 330i Xdrive, will this data fit for my Xdrive system?
Yep, it's within specs.
I'm running the same size on my F36
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Yep, it's within specs.
I'm running the same size on my F36
Thanks for the info, buddy.
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There's no possible way you could be off by 20%. That's like having a 30" circumference tire and a 24" circumference tire.

The stock 19" wheels using a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19 have rolling circumference of roughly 26" of which a one percent difference would put you at 25.74". Considering the tread depth of the Potenza S001 RFT is only 10/32 of a an inch or .31", you'd have to have a new tire and an almost bald one to have them more then .26" in circumference difference.
My m550i comes with 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 would I be able to run 255/30/20 and 295/30/20 with my new rims?
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My m550i comes with 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 would I be able to run 255/30/20 and 295/30/20 with my new rims?
No, 255/35/20 + 295/30/20 would be perfectly fine for x-drive.
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45 years of driving RWD cars that always wore out the front tires faster tells me otherwise. One might think that if the rears are providing all of the force when accelerating that they'd wear faster, but that's cancelled out by the fronts providing most of the stopping power. Where this doesn't apply is if you're doing silly stuff. like burnouts and drifting.



I like how the driver got out with his tiny fire extinguisher. LOL
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Interesting. I'm looking at a staggered setup, so I'll definitely have to compare overall diameters on a site like willtheyfit.com
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Wrong. Drive an xdrive car. The rears always wear quicker. This is my 3rd BMW with xdrive. These cars are rear drive biased.
I don’t find that to be true. I have had two different BMW X Drives, both 535 cars. I have run both staggered and square setup. I have never seen the rear tires wear faster than the fronts. You can’t rotate a staggered set because the rears won’t fit the front and would really look strange if you did.
If your rear tires wear faster than the front you have a problem. The rear tires will not spin independently from the front enough to wear tires unless the transfer case is out.
I run 245/40-19 front and 285/35-19 rear. That is .2 tenths of a inch different. I was running 275/35-19 rear, which is about .15 smaller than the 285, so basically +-.15 in either direction. I have had absolutely no problems
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Wrong. Drive an xdrive car. The rears always wear quicker. This is my 3rd BMW with xdrive. These cars are rear drive biased.
I don’t find that to be true. I have had two different BMW X Drives, both 535 cars. I have run both staggered and square setup. I have never seen the rear tires wear faster than the fronts. You can’t rotate a staggered set because the rears won’t fit the front and would really look strange if you did.
If your rear tires wear faster than the front you have a problem. The rear tires will not spin independently from the front enough to wear tires unless the transfer case is out.
I run 245/40-19 front and 285/35-19 rear. That is .2 tenths of a inch different. I was running 275/35-19 rear, which is about .15 smaller than the 285, so basically +-.15 in either direction. I have had absolutely no problems
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My 09 335 xdrive ran for 120k miles with the rears wearing faster. Never an issue.

Then my '14 435, '15 335, '18 340i, and my current M340i which were/are all xdrives have the rears wear faster. My service advisor confirms that is normal.
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