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Castrol 0w40 is it still safe to use?
Since I gotten my car I have always used Castrols edge 0w40 Euro edition from walmart. Today I went to walmart and notice that the euro edition no longer has bmw LL-01 approval, but then notice a new gallon with 5w40 that meets that requirement. Then i went to autozone on which they still had the 0w-40 with bmw approval. Which one should I use? I just like that the 0w40 says its made in europe and 5w40 on the states.
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06-28-2019, 07:46 AM | #2 |
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It no longer has the LL-01 approval because Castrol is no longer paying BMW a royalty to use it. LL-01 isn't an oil industry standard, it's a BMW trademark. If your engine didn't spontaneously self-destruct from using Castrol Edge 0w-40 in the past it won't now either.
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Iirc the 0w40 still has Porsche's A40 and Benz 229.5 certs. That's something in itself. You could run a LL04, LL01FE (BMW only oil in US). Of course ordering online is always an option.
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I live in a warmer climate so I use Castrol A3/B4 0W-40 which still has the LL-01 certification. (just bought a 5qt. bottle of the stuff last week). |
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I used this for almost 60K miles total in my 228i and had great Blackstone reports. I used it from about 46K-100K miles. I will be going back to it in the next 15K miles. I'm using T6 5W-40 because my car wasn't really cared for very well by the previous owner and the extra detergents will help flush things out. Then it's back to what works in my experience.
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FWIW: The latest jugs I just got off Amazon still have the LL-01(BMW) listing on the back, maybe that's why they were on sale...
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BMW hasn't said anything because they moved the US fleet to oils which have a HTHS of 3.0 or less (LL01FE, LL12FE, etc). IIRC I heard there might be an announcement in the next couple of months.
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LL04 performs the exact same as LL01, it just has a different addpack which is designed for use with ULSG. LL01FE was replaced by LL12FE. LL12FE is essentially LL01FE which is formulated for ULSG. Here's a list of suitable oils for every engine type. https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...l-note/1PSryV8 LL01 is going away.
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This is the blurb about LL-12FE: Quote:
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The US didn't mandate ULSG until January 2018. LL04 like LL01 has a min HTHS of 3.5. BMW moved away from this HTHS for the US market via LL01FE (HTHS 3.0). LL04 is fine as an option. IMO BMW didn't see a point of making LL04 official because they really want their US fleet to use the FE oils due to having less engine issues under US operating conditions. As I said earlier, I've been told there might be an announcement later this year.
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